Let's talk about the elephant in the room, this series violates Roddenberry's vision big time

My view of Roddenberry's vision is we should be like Bruce Lee and take the good while leaving the bad. Like the fact he didn't think women could be starship captains (but did think they could be 1st officers--so...progress?)

 

Kindly stop derailing the thread with facts and stuff...

 

I don't know what the 'it' is either but Janeway didn't have the personal chip on her shoulder Burnham has. Burnham has too many issues. She's a misery guts.

 

None of which are because she's a woman of color.

 

I'd actually rather have the traumatized undiagnosed PTSD Burnham in charge of my ship than Janeway.

"Let's ally with the Borg. Let's see how that works."

 

It's a character flaw, I know.

 

Sure. It's just that I really wouldn't want either of those two to be main characters of the show.

 

Chip on her shoulder? No. She's resigned.

 

I would take a Ron Tracy show over almost anything we got in the 90s. Frigging LIT!

 

Let's kill the torch bearer and then purposely mutiny against my Captain and later watch her get killed.

Yeah that's better.. All the makings of a fine leader there.

 

Which clearly isn't in line with Gene's vision.

 

Thus far, Burnham is a conflict in search of a character.

 

I do.

 

The first was in self-defense. As for the mutiny? Eh, it would have worked if not for that pesky human strength.

 

I dunno, she's Worf combined with Spock.

That's two characters in search of a show.

 

She'll get a commendation for original thinking when all is said and done. That's how Starfleet rolls.

 

I think that's part of my problem with her, this particular trope has been beaten to death on Trek.

 

Star Trek has taken beating dead horses to whole new levels at times. I don't care for Burnham either, she was a horribly written character in the first two episodes (not the actress's fault, mind you). The third episode she was slightly improved, she did smile once. Maybe twice. But her actions (plot wise) weren't nearly as insanely absurd and inconsistent like they were in the first two episodes.

 

I actually think "had a nervous breakdown because of childhood trauma and panicked" is what happened.

 

Have you never read about great leaders and the mistakes they've made?

Thank you for protecting this most sacred of items. Hopefully, it is in a hermetically sealed room, like the kilogram.

She should have been promoted to Admiral. Duh

I tend to think this as well.

Clearly, the mind scrambler wasn't invented yet