After four years and 97 thrilling episodes, the dramatic reveal: "Chef" is Lorca.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x03 - "Context is for Kings"
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I love that the Seven of Nine eyepiece apparently isn't unique to her. Perhaps we'll meet another blind character wearing a VISOR at some point?Some better quality screen grabs I took. Really like the design of her character.
Lorca had eye surgery and appears to be Caucasian, despite claiming to have what one would assume is an Asian occupational heredity.
Is it possible that Gabriel only had two eye-lids before his surgery?
Is it possible that Gabriel only had two eye-lids before his surgery?
They already are doing that. She was entirely professional in the lab, with the sole exception of when Michael tried to sit next to her which triggered her nerves. And she was the one who spotted the Klingon in the shadows and calmly and professionally ordered him to show himself, without any hint of hesitation.
I don't see any reason to assume an Asian heredity. Fortune Cookies are American.
I think you're underselling just how much information the pilot movie imparted.
For one thing you'd have no context for all the references to the mutiny and the start of the war, so a lot of the episode would be bogged down in questions of "Well what actually happened?" instead of "What is happening now?"
For another, this is supposed to be a redemption story, so it certainly helps to show what the character is redeeming for, rather than just being told.
Absolutely. I also thought the mess hall scene in this episode reminded me of Tom Paris in 'Caretaker', who had a similar story.
Launching off from the messhall brawl, they are talking about the stunt co-ordinators creating different fighting styles for different species, on After Trek, which had me wonder, no matter how they disguise themselves, if Romulans fight like Vulcans, with Vulcan martial arts, won't that be confusing to the people who can recognize such things?
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For some reason it wouldn't let me, I cant edit my posts either.
I assume its to do with still being on first 14 days still.
If you venmo me $35, I can fix that for you. 
Best screen grab I can get of the map, hopefully there's a close-up shot in a future episode.
Props to Nazladrion on reddit who helped me with this.
I wonder how long until Lorca's "battle injury" to his eyes is revealed to be the result of a bad magic mushroom trip.
After rewatching I like the ep a bit better.
I'm still troubled by the apparent confusion between what we saw in the two prologue eps and what everyone, including Burnham, seems to think happened. Her betrayal of her captain suffices for everyone's distrust and her being in prison. Why is she blamed for the war - which she seems to accept - when we saw that nothing she did actually made a difference to either the battle starting, or to the outcome of that battle?
The rest of the episode is better if I push that concern away, and pretend that this was the first part of a two-part pilot rather than the third episode of the series. The introduction of characters and how much we know about the cast and setting suddenly line up much better.
One thing I haven't seen talked about much - why (in-universe) put Burnham with Tilly? My best guess is that Lorca is testing Tilly, seeing how much she'll tell Burnham etc., just as we see him testing Burnham in other ways. Which would mean he's monitoring them in quarters - appropriate for a prisoner, perhaps, but not great conduct toward a cadet.
I do like that we see Tilly babbling making conversation, not in executing her duties. And she's determined to make the best of rooming with Starfleet's pariah, even while aware her image and career could be tainted by the association.
I'm still troubled by the apparent confusion between what we saw in the two prologue eps and what everyone, including Burnham, seems to think happened. Her betrayal of her captain suffices for everyone's distrust and her being in prison. Why is she blamed for the war - which she seems to accept - when we saw that nothing she did actually made a difference to either the battle starting, or to the outcome of that battle?
The rest of the episode is better if I push that concern away, and pretend that this was the first part of a two-part pilot rather than the third episode of the series. The introduction of characters and how much we know about the cast and setting suddenly line up much better.
One thing I haven't seen talked about much - why (in-universe) put Burnham with Tilly? My best guess is that Lorca is testing Tilly, seeing how much she'll tell Burnham etc., just as we see him testing Burnham in other ways. Which would mean he's monitoring them in quarters - appropriate for a prisoner, perhaps, but not great conduct toward a cadet.
I do like that we see Tilly babbling making conversation, not in executing her duties. And she's determined to make the best of rooming with Starfleet's pariah, even while aware her image and career could be tainted by the association.
You know, for all the talk of how dark the ship is, the shuttle bay and mess hall seem to be pretty well-lit. Looks like it's just the bridge, ready room, and biology lab that are overly dark; all places Lorca and his light sensitivity would be likely to hang out (though, curiously, we never saw Lorca actually on the bridge in this episode).
She killed the torchbearer, which led to the chain of events ending in war. But you're right, the T'Kuvma didn't really need an excuse.
I think she gets the blame for getting the captain killed failing to apprehend T'Kuvma. She completely fucked up that mission, and blames herself.
I don't think they were tricked. T'Kuvma called them to the scene, said the Federation claims to come in peace but really wants to assimilate us like they have all these other races. Let's fight them!
And they did.
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Yes, but most family businesses that involve fortune cookies are Asian families.
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