Anyone noticed this about the pronunciation of the Klingon language in this series?

[Nerys Myk]

Didn't have a problem with the Klingon language.

 

[GilmourD]

Kind of like how an American from Mobile may have a hard time understanding someone from Newcastle and vice versa?

Basically the new Klingons are Ozzy Osbourne.

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[Nerys Myk]

Basically the new Klingons are Ozzy Osbourne.

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Nah, Ozzy's from Birmingham.

 

[Jarvisimo]

How many people complaining about the Klingon are bi-, tri- or further multilingual? How many of you listen to other languages being spoken?

Really, of course it will sound different, involve different paces, pitches, depths, and so on.

This complaining - here and across the web - is so fecking anglophone & anglocentric. 'Subtitles' are hard, 'they are too slow', 'I don't like pauses', 'why can't they just speak English', etc. Don't you understand how conservative and narrow-minded that is. Do you complain the same when Gaelic occurs in Outlander? Or Italian in The Young Pope?

Also - ironically - don't you understand that demanding English *is* T'Kuvma's point? And a latent criticism of the show - the denial of difference?

 

[GilmourD]

How many people complaining about the Klingon are bi-, tri- or further multilingual? How many of you listen to other languages being spoken?

Really, of course it will sound different, involve different paces, pitches, depths, and so on.

This complaining - here and across the web - is so fecking anglophone & anglocentric. 'Subtitles' are hard, 'they are too slow', 'I don't like pauses', 'why can't they just speak English', etc. Don't you understand how conservative and narrow-minded that is. Do you complain the same when Gaelic occurs in Outlander? Or Italian in The Young Pope?

Also - ironically - don't you understand that demanding English *is* T'Kuvma's point? And a latent criticism of the show - the denial of difference?

I'm way rusty but I used to be able to speak rudimentary Latin.

I just want to be able to understand which Klingon words they're saying.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I just want to be able to understand which Klingon words they're saying.

Why? It's made up and we have subtitles.

 

[GilmourD]

Why? It's made up and we have subtitles.

Because if Klingon is an actual language with grammar, pronunciation, and syntax it should be respected.

It would be like if somebody made believe they were speaking Italian, just mumbled some random noises, and there were subtitles. That would suck.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Because if Klingon is an actual language with grammar, pronunciation, and syntax it should be respected.

It would be like if somebody made believe they were speaking Italian, just mumbled some random noises, and there were subtitles. That would suck.

No it's a fake language made up for a SF franchise. There may be grammar, pronunciation, and syntax but it's still fake. A language made up by humans and not actual Klingons. It will be spoken however the people making Star Trek decide it will be and not by a bunch of hobbyists.

 

[Spider]

At least we didn't have to listen to it this episode.

 

[Albinator]

I caught this right away, and I loved it.

 

[Nerys Myk]

At least we didn't have to listen to it this episode.

We had the Klingon Shush! Something Burnham can tell her child about when it's in a dodgy situation.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I didn’t mind the subtitles. I’m capable of watching and reading at the same time.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I didn’t mind the subtitles. I’m capable of watching and reading at the same time.

Don't you go bragging, now.

 

[Kor]

Klingon is as much of a language as Esperanto is.

Kor

 

[Nerys Myk]

Klingon is as much of a language as Esperanto is.

Kor

True. But Esparanto wasn't invented for the fictional Esparantish race on a TV show. Nor do people dress in Esparantish costumes an conventions.

 

[Kor]

Incidentally, the Klingon language community rejects the Klingon dialog spoken in TNG, VOY, and DS9 as "Paramount HoL," because it does not conform to Okrand's rules of the language.

I wonder what they think of the language as spoken in STD so far.

Kor

 

[dahj]

Nor do people dress in Esparantish costumes an conventions.

My second choice for Halloween this year was to go as an Esperanterite.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Havu Feliĉa Halloween or if you prefer halloween Quch ghaj

 

[dahj]

Uhm, yes, Felicia will be there too, of course, and yes they will be serving gagh...

(nailed it )

 

[Kor]

Marc Okrand himself has spoken.

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The Klingon spoken in STD is legit, both in language structure and in pronunciation (unlike much of the "Klingon" spoken in TNG and the other later Trek spinoffs ). The Klingon-language dialog in STD was developed by Robyn Stewart, an expert in the language.

Kor