Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x02 - "Battle at the Binary Stars"

[Guy Gardener]

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What are you talking about?

I can see Lister's Dad.

He's standing right there.

 

[AndyUK]

Think this was just about the better of the two, with the Federation/Klingon conflict really beginning and obviously had a couple of big moments with the deaths on both sides. The problem with the Klingons isn't particularly the subtitles, it's the content of their monologues along with the subtitles that stops them from being that interesting for long periods of time on screen so it'll be interesting to see how they tackle their screen time in future episodes.

Looking forward to seeing the Discovery crew for the first time next week.

 

[Tim Thomason]

Are the cloaking devices a canon violation?

I really need to know.

The Klingons probably stole cloaking technology from their classic enemy, the Suliban.

 

[Turbo]

In the spirit of the now-locked four word review thread:

"Risky but exciting. Anticipation."

 

[Mudd]

Well, that was...dreary.

Gentleman's C.

 

[Fateor]

No, thats just the first time the audience sees them using one.

No, that's the first time they had it.

The Animated series was very specific in that given it was the main plot point of the episode.

 

[Turbo]

No, that's the first time they had it.

The Animated series was very specific in that given it was the main plot point of the episode.

And, in case you don't count TAS, Kor mentions it again in "Once More Unto the Breach".

 

[SAndrews10]

So for the most part the Klingons have been absent for nearly a century? I don't remember that in canon.

The series was promoted as expounding upon an event often mentioned in Trek but never seen. And that is....

 

[Noname Given]

What I am curious about is why would she not go to live with her grandparents or a aunt or something after her parents died? I wonder if they will explain this. Also I am confused. Did she go to Starfleet Academy because when she arrives she is wearing a Vulcan outfit and hairstyle that doesn't prove anything but I think it does supose to make you think she has been living on Vulcan.

Jason

It's possible she either had no living relatives (or none willing or capable of taking the responsibility to raise her to adulthood.)

 

[Lucky]

I'm happy. I'll give the first two an 8/10. It did a good job of showing the inciting incident of this conflict, though I felt some of the character choices were...not always easy to understand. I'm looking forward to what is ahead now that the background has been set up.

 

[Noname Given]

I didn't really care for the space battles. I was wondering why we were having space battles, honestly. Yeah, Klingons like to fight, they LIVE to fight, but space battle this early in the series? Yes, DS9's "Emissary" started with the battle at Wolf 359, but it quickly turned into a message of hope, of renewal, of change that lead to a positive path by the end of the pilot. By the end of DSC's second episode, or part 2 of the pilot if we're being at all fair, fuck you CBS, I was just depressed and dispirited. I don't want nuBSG. I don't want NCIS or Seal Team Six in space. I don't want a war series. I'm hoping the third episode will bring me back fully on board. I want it to win me over, very badly.

There was only a 'big space battle' in the second episode - and the reason for it was clear: T'Kuvma was going to use a 'glorious war' to re-unite the Klingon Empire; and further that the Federation was an enemy to the Empire that had no Honor; and spreads their lie of: "We come in Peace."

 

[Amaris]

There was only a 'big space battle' in the second episode - and the reason for it was clear: T'Kuvma was going to use a 'glorious war' to re-unite the Klingon Empire; and further that the Federation was an enemy to the Empire that had no Honor; and spreads their lie of: "We come in Peace."

Yes, in the pilot there's a space battle. We're not two hours into the series, and there's a major space battle. I didn't like that.

 

[Turbo]

Yes, in the pilot there's a space battle. We're not two hours into the series, and there's a major space battle. I didn't like that.

I seriously doubt that this is going to be SUPER BATTLE TREK IN SPACE. The writers involved are too good for that. This feels, to me, like Michael falling to her lowest point so we can see a redemption arc. I have a feeling the next few episodes will be quite a bit more on the hopeful side.

 

[Tosk]

Yes, in the pilot there's a space battle. We're not two hours into the series, and there's a major space battle. I didn't like that.

DS9 did it in the first two minutes.

 

[Borgminister]

DS9 did it in the first two minutes.

That's what she said! (Michael Scott)

 

[Tosk]

Fudge, you're right. This thread is moving too quick for me to keep up.

 

[Tuskin38]

So for the most part the Klingons have been absent for nearly a century? I don't remember that in canon.

We've never seen this time period before (outside of 'The Cage'), so it would be hard to remember.

 

[Neumann]

Many fans were squealing that the show was full of space battles. There was one major battle which wasn't that clear for any of us. And there was a lot more going on in the ship than outside during game the battle. It found it ok.
I for one disliked the Admiral, he acted like a jerk. So I did not feel bad about the Europa's destruction. I do want to know what was that giant harpoon that destroyed it though. My issue with Burnham is that she should have filled with holes that klingon "savior", not just one shot.

 

[Mudd]

I seriously doubt that this is going to be SUPER BATTLE TREK IN SPACE. The writers involved are too good for that.

Can't prove that by what we've seen so far.

 

[Guy Gardener]

And expensive unless it's 95 percent exposition.