Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x02 - "Battle at the Binary Stars"
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I thought both episodes were very entertaining. Not perfect, not the way I would have done it...but entertaining and fun. I really had a good time with the characters, which is my #1 point for judgement in any Trek series. I was bummed that (SPOILER) Michelle Yeoh's character was killed. I thought she was a fantastic character, and made a compelling captain.
I thought there was fun, wonder, action, drama, and humor....that perfect combination that makes Trek great.
The Klingon stuff was meh, but I've been mentally prepared for that for months, so I'm not bothered by it yet.
Interested to see what next week brings.
I thought there was fun, wonder, action, drama, and humor....that perfect combination that makes Trek great.
The Klingon stuff was meh, but I've been mentally prepared for that for months, so I'm not bothered by it yet.
Interested to see what next week brings.
I wish that Michelle Yeoh''s character would have stayed longer. However, I enjoyed this one a great deal. I can see some stuff they may play around with and really did not exspect the Klingon death there. Totally caught me off guard
I’m assuming there will be more flashbacks, as they’ve talked about swapping the sets in and out during filming
That is what I am thinking as well. I think we will get a bit of that and the Shenzhou
Basically the first two episodes are a prologue.
Pros
I like Burnham. She's interesting (and sexy).
Like the Starfleet production design for the most part. Let out a little squee when they reused sound effects from the TOS and Berman era.
The Klingon redesign doesn't look as out of place on screen as it does in pictures.
Cons
Feels dumbed down. A problem haunting JJ Trek as well. Clearly the feeling is that people cannot handle intelligent Trek anymore.
Relentless fast pace and action. A problem that haunts modern day American TV and film. Needed some slow and intimate moments.
No explanation for the Klingon redesign yet. I found the delivery of the Klingon lines painfully laboured and, so far, I found them lacking the depth brought to the race during the movies and Berman era. The redesign still bothers me, especially since they went to lengths to referenced things like Kahless and Stovokor.
Michelle Yeoh buying it. Last surprising event of the show.
The continuity era of cloaking devices somehow seeming bizarre to the crew.
Overall it was OK. Nothing truly great and I think the behind the scenes drama hints at an attempt to make it less "Star Trekky". It lacked heart and intelligence. But having said that, it is essentially the start of Burnham's arc and it looks like the episodes to come will properly set up the crew of the Discovery and move at a slower pace, so I have hope for it yet....and let's face it, none of the spin off pilots have really knocked it out of the park. If I'm honest though I really hope that the show arc is not just Burham. An ensemble cast is important for Trek and the fact that the rest of the cast, with the exceptioon of Doug Jones, have basically been cast aside for the very episodes that are meant to get people tune in seems like an incredible risk to me.
Pros
I like Burnham. She's interesting (and sexy).
Like the Starfleet production design for the most part. Let out a little squee when they reused sound effects from the TOS and Berman era.
The Klingon redesign doesn't look as out of place on screen as it does in pictures.
Cons
Feels dumbed down. A problem haunting JJ Trek as well. Clearly the feeling is that people cannot handle intelligent Trek anymore.
Relentless fast pace and action. A problem that haunts modern day American TV and film. Needed some slow and intimate moments.
No explanation for the Klingon redesign yet. I found the delivery of the Klingon lines painfully laboured and, so far, I found them lacking the depth brought to the race during the movies and Berman era. The redesign still bothers me, especially since they went to lengths to referenced things like Kahless and Stovokor.
Michelle Yeoh buying it. Last surprising event of the show.
The continuity era of cloaking devices somehow seeming bizarre to the crew.
Overall it was OK. Nothing truly great and I think the behind the scenes drama hints at an attempt to make it less "Star Trekky". It lacked heart and intelligence. But having said that, it is essentially the start of Burnham's arc and it looks like the episodes to come will properly set up the crew of the Discovery and move at a slower pace, so I have hope for it yet....and let's face it, none of the spin off pilots have really knocked it out of the park. If I'm honest though I really hope that the show arc is not just Burham. An ensemble cast is important for Trek and the fact that the rest of the cast, with the exceptioon of Doug Jones, have basically been cast aside for the very episodes that are meant to get people tune in seems like an incredible risk to me.
i'm interested as to why they made this episode and the pilot two seperate episodes and not kept it as a feature-length episode cause if you take out the end credits and opening credits from this episode it would come in under 80 minutes.
Yeah they way they flow into each other makes it feel like they were meant to be one
Where the 1st episode was nearly a dung-pile, this one really showed off what the series is capable of. I really liked it.
The show looks great so far. But im not fully hooked. Gave it an 8.
Lots of cool stuff.
Burnham vs the computer
Beaming the bomb was cool.
Emergency shield hull was cool.
Klingons vs Starfleet awesome.
The cliffhanger at the end doesnt work since we already know she ends up on the Discovery.
Lots of cool stuff.
Burnham vs the computer
Beaming the bomb was cool.
Emergency shield hull was cool.
Klingons vs Starfleet awesome.
The cliffhanger at the end doesnt work since we already know she ends up on the Discovery.
I think we need to in order to get the background on Michael's character because the Michael we saw when Sarek brought her on board and the Michael that commmitted Mutiny are not the same person so we need to see how she got from point A to point B. Kinda similar to Arrow where we had the island sequences to show us how he got to where he was.
I don't think it was designed to be a cliffhanger so much as an end to the first chapter of her story and next week we start chapter 2.
Yup.
Which is reason enough to mark it a failure. It's one thing to have a prologue episode to start a TV show. It's quite another thing for it be the episode a company is using to sell the series and the service that hosts it to a new audience.
Review for both episodes: Largely enjoyable, but it's hard to judge as a whole when, as mentioned, these two episodes act as a prologue.
Burnham is the only reason why I'm interested right now and that's despite, and not because of, her Vulcan connections. I did love Georgiou's character, but I wasn't surprised by her death considering I figured that was going to happen the moment we knew there would be two ships. I suspect we'll see more of her in flashbacks, but I hope they're actually useful and not there just for the sake of it.
I loved Burnham outsmarting the computer in order to get out of the brig to save her life. The conversation reminded me of Zoe's conversation with a similarly ornery computer in Doctor Who's The Invasion.
I've been tired of Klingons for years so dealing with these slow-talking, hairless, barely Klingons make them all the more tiresome. I get what they're going for, but I just don't care.
I sure hope the show runners realize there's more to Star Trek than Klingons and Vulcans.
Burnham is the only reason why I'm interested right now and that's despite, and not because of, her Vulcan connections. I did love Georgiou's character, but I wasn't surprised by her death considering I figured that was going to happen the moment we knew there would be two ships. I suspect we'll see more of her in flashbacks, but I hope they're actually useful and not there just for the sake of it.
I loved Burnham outsmarting the computer in order to get out of the brig to save her life. The conversation reminded me of Zoe's conversation with a similarly ornery computer in Doctor Who's The Invasion.
I've been tired of Klingons for years so dealing with these slow-talking, hairless, barely Klingons make them all the more tiresome. I get what they're going for, but I just don't care.
I sure hope the show runners realize there's more to Star Trek than Klingons and Vulcans.
Simple: Greed. CBS wanted to only air one part on their network as a hook and then lure people to their own streaming service.
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