I like Jake!
Jake Sisko - Completely Unlikeable
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"I had reasoned this out in my mind, there was one of two things I had a right to, liberty or death; if I could not have one, I would have the other". Harriet Tubman
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Nowhere was this apparent than in the offscreen relationship Cirroc had with Avery, which was like a kind of mentorship if I remember what I'd read about it someplace.
Maybe the writers felt that Jake would be out of place in that episode.
The character was fine. Less annoying than Wesley.
I saw him at a convention, he was incredibly dull.
I saw him at a convention, he was incredibly dull.
How dull? Was he bored, unenthusiastic, or what?
Totally agree. The whole investigative reporter angle was just forced to give the character something to do.
Why? A child does not always know what they want to do until later, and Jake was like that.
He wasn't really engaging with the audence, gave fairly short quiet answers to questions and was incredibly mellow. I don't know if that is always how he is or if he just had an off day.
Hell, I got my college degree in Chemistry. If I'd known I was going to end up writing for a living, I would taken a lot more English classes . . .
An episode idea originating as a Jake story and ending up without him even in it seems to have happened a lot. The "Honor Among Thieves" Memory Alpha entry describes the same thing.
That's clearly where "The Muse" went wrong. They just didn't reach the realization that they needed to turn that alien brain vampire deal into a female buddy adventure for Jadzia or whatever.
Ha! As much as I wondered "if the writers have lost interest in Jake this completely, why is he still here?", I always thought his continuing presence on the station was so well-justified from a story standpoint. The reporter thing was inspired.
Isn't it an unwritten rule that the more sophisticated a story becomes or the more expectations placed on it, the more producers will look to more senior and popular episodes to carry it?
I never found Jake unlikable. In some cases I found him a little bit of a narrative third wheel. They made a good character decision giving him no interest in Starfleet, but in the same move, that made it difficult for him to really be part of most of the episodes without being a tagalong. Also unlike Quark, due to his personality he couldn't really be a narrative agent as a tagalong either. He doesn't cause things to happen, things happen to him and he reflects.
The writers occasionally made it work like with Nor The Battle To The Strong, but you can't have Jake tag along and reflect on stuff that happens too often without wearing out its welcome.
The writers occasionally made it work like with Nor The Battle To The Strong, but you can't have Jake tag along and reflect on stuff that happens too often without wearing out its welcome.
I think that was one of the reasons in the early seasons he worked as a engineer. They wanted him to have a job and function but I think they gave him that job before they established his interest as a writer. Maybe they should have allowed to stay in that job while also trying to learn about writing. Better yet why allow him to work at Quarks like he even suggested once. Instead of a bunch of no name extras as bartenders you could always have around when characters are at the bar. PLus it would be a fun twist to have the human working for Quark and the Ferengi Rom working with Starfleet.
Jason
I think it was late season 3 (explorers) that he started having the interest in writing.
My bad, you're right. Season 3. Although he was already writing poetry in early season 3 (The Abandoned). Even though that may have been only to impress Mardah it still counts.
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