You don't have to future proof things that won't air in the future.
DS9 on blu ray?
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Wow. That's beautiful work!
I really love this one. Can't wait for the others! This is really a very clever way to share snippets of the arcs from each season. It's amazing how exciting these videos are with just graphics, music and dialogue. I wonder if Behr has seen these? It would be awesome if the creators of these pieces could be interviewed for the documentary. The labor of love here is gigantic. These clips show how loved this series is just based on the fact that all of this work has been done, but they also show off how awesome this series was in such a unique way. Love, love, love.
Popping in to promise everyone that should I ever win the lottery or otherwise become a multi-millionaire, I will foot the bill for DS9 in HD. That would be my priority.
Well, after paying taxes anyway.
Well, after paying taxes anyway.
You'd probably have to pay through the nose just to get access to the archived film - companies are very protective of their assets and are likely to impose conditions that would mean you'd be unlikely ever to see any meaningful return on your investment - although it seems you don't mind about that.
I expect CBS would be delighted if some angel came along to fund the conversion and would agree to a contract in which Balok's Decoy invested upfront, CBS did the work, and CBS was the first to see profits (if any), and Balok's Decoy got paid back in the unlikely event that the project made money.
DS9 in HD on my shelf would be my return on investment lol.
For the eternal optimists...
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If streaming services like Netflix were to carry a theoretical DS9 HD remaster, the way they do with TNG and TOS, then not enough people would shell out the $150+ price tag for the DS9 blu-ray set and CBS wouldn't make back their investment.
Now, if CBSAA held exclusive rights to the DS9 HD remaster...
Now, if CBSAA held exclusive rights to the DS9 HD remaster...
I seriously don't think the remaster of a twenty-plus year old show would drive enough subscriptions to be worth while.
That's what Paramount was doing in the 90's during their original run. It's called the all barter system. The stations received the episodes for free, but Paramount was allowed to sell 7 minutes of the commercial time to national advertisers, while the stations themselves sold the remaining time to local advertisers.
I was just looking in the 1994 book, The Making Of Star Trek Deep Space Nine by Judith & Garfield Reeves-Stevens, and on page 33 it mentions that ever since 1987 Parmount has been making a profit on TNG, as it cost Paramount 30 million dollars to produce the entire season, but, before residuals were paid Paramount had made about $18 million dollars in advertising revenue and $6.5 million in foreign overseas home video pre-sales. And the Reeves-Stevens point out that it had taken 20 years for TOS episodes to command a combined $1 million dollars per episode for advertising revenue, but by Season 4 TNG was already commanding $1 million dollars per episode, with each 30-second spot going for about $100,000 USD dollars (about $1.4 million per episode), which was apparently the highest for any syndicated show in the 1992-1993 season. The episode Reunification commanded $200,000 per 30 second spot (or $2.8 million per episode), while the series finale, All Good Things commanded a whopping $700,000 per 30 second spot (for $19.6 million for the entire 2-hour airing). According to the Reeves-Stevens, by mid-1994 (the book has a December 1994 copyright date, so they probably had the manuscript at Simon & Schuster by July or August I'm assuming) TNG had an estimated $511 million in revenue, of which $293 million was profit.
From what I can get from the book, the first Season of Deep Space Nine, and quite possible Season 2 of Deep Space Nine had already made a profit by the time the book went to print. And if that's the case, then CBS currently has no debt for DS9, and they have most likely been making profit on it since the took over in 2006, and prior to that Paramount was probably making profit since the series ended in 1999. So any remastering that CBS did on the series would not put the series in the red. And CBS could quickly recover the cost of the remaster. Likewise, CBS has probably already recovered the cost of TNG's remaster, and is just "soaking up" the profits.
And it's interesting, but way back in 1993-1994, there was already discussion about on-demand Star Trek, and how the quality of the episodes would not be good for on-demand or HD.
As for the TOS-R masters, back in 2006 it was CBS's choice to release only SD masters of TOS-R, it wasn't the stations that wanted them (of course in 2006 a number of stations were still broadcasting SD, while it was the network broadcasts that were in HD). And in 2006 CBS gave the stations the tapes using the same contract as they had had with the stations for the syndicated re-runs of Star Trek: Enterprise. (And as I recall, in 2006, the HD rights to Enterprise were locked up by SCIFI channel in the US, thus every other station could only get SD rights, which I recall led to HDNET having to upconvert Enterprise from SD tapes, so if you were watching the show on HDNET in HD in 2006, Enterprise would've been in a letterbox version on HDNET, with black on all 4 sides of the image).
DS9 isn't jut another show but a something that is part of bigger franchise. If the new Trek stuff is popular it lends hope that new fans will want to check out the old stuff. Since DS9 I think ages better than any of the other shows I think that gives it a chance to catch on with newer fans, I wonder if one of the reasons that TNG didn't perform better is because for many they feel like the show hasn't aged that well. I'm curious as to how well "TOS" sold. I think that show is always going to be timeless because of how iconic it is, even if it hasn't aged well in most other area's.
Jason
For those who keep saying that Deep Space Nine is not airing in the US, I just found this. It's on Heroes & Icons. (http://heroesandiconstv.com/allstartrek/deep-space-nine/)
Apparently they've been airing all 6 Star Trek series since mid-2016. Might be interesting to see what version of TNG they have, since it might shed some light on why the later seasons are not airing in HD on BBC America (could H&I have an exclusive clause for the HD versions?)
Apparently they've been airing all 6 Star Trek series since mid-2016. Might be interesting to see what version of TNG they have, since it might shed some light on why the later seasons are not airing in HD on BBC America (could H&I have an exclusive clause for the HD versions?)
You realize that is just a 480i signal. It all looks like garbage. It is watchable either via DVD or streaming.
DVD's are 480p. The numbers are short hand for the number of pixels on the screen. The higher the number, normally the better clarity of picture.
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