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Middle-Easterners in "Discovery"

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I thought Faran Tahir as Cpt. Robeau was wonderful, and is to this day maybe my favourite anything in the JJverse movies. Science fiction offers the unique opportunity to cast somebody who would normally only play "terrorist", "gangster" or "guy that is falsely accused as terrorist or gangster", and give him an unequivocally, straight-forward good-guy lead role. THAT'S how you succesfully tackle social issues in your show! That's what made Lt. Uhura so special in her time. Not with any kind of message-preaching show.
TOS could get preachy from time to time, especially during season three. See: "The Savage Curtain" and "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield". :techman:
Hey-that's not being preachy! That's commentary ;)
 
TOS could get preachy from time to time, especially during season three. See: "The Savage Curtain" and "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield". :techman:

Those episodes are very well included in my "preachy" criticism. I'd argue Nichelle Nichols casual presence on the bridge inspired a lot more people than the one on-the-nose episode about prejudiced black and white people.
 
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My mother considered spaghetti bolognese radically ethnic.

It is, it screams "Northern European" to me, since Italians don't eat bolognese (ragù bolognese) with spaghetti.

It's like those Americans who think "marinara sauce" is a thing in Italy under that name.
 
It is, it screams "Northern European" to me, since Italians don't eat bolognese (ragù bolognese) with spaghetti.

It's like those Americans who think "marinara sauce" is a thing in Italy under that name.
It isn't! Next you will be telling me that Chinese food isn't all fried. :cardie:

:techman:
 
TOS could get preachy from time to time, especially during season three. See: "The Savage Curtain" and "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield". :techman:
Savage Curtain has some pretty good preaching though. I mean, it has made up Lincoln quotes that are now actually attributed to the real Lincoln. (AND completely taken out of context.)
 
Yes, Kirk and McCoy munched on brightly colored nutrient cubes and magenta lettuce so that the 20th century American audience could relate to them. :techman:

Kor
Lol,
Not to mention Sparkly Vampires, Magic kids, nerd guys with super powers, (dated some of them, with their glasses on they look 100% I recognizable.) Guys that can get blown off the side of a building and turn and grab anther bullying with their finger tips and pull themselves up. Yea, I can related to that, saw a guy yesterday do that.
:lol::lol:
 
That's what made Lt. Uhura so special in her time. Not with any kind of message-preaching show.

The TOS episode where Kirk meets Lincoln (The Savage Curtain?) and Uhura response when he calls her 'negress' that words are no longer matter or something similar, well if anyone had any doubt you can tell that was definitely written by a white person. :rolleyes:
 
The TOS episode where Kirk meets Lincoln (The Savage Curtain?) and Uhura response when he calls her 'negress' that words are no longer matter or something similar, well if anyone had any doubt you can tell that was definitely written by a white person. :rolleyes:

In the future EVERYONE gets treated like a white person! Isn't that an awesome Utopia?:guffaw:
 
The TOS episode where Kirk meets Lincoln (The Savage Curtain?) and Uhura response when he calls her 'negress' that words are no longer matter or something similar, well if anyone had any doubt you can tell that was definitely written by a white person. :rolleyes:
Nearly fifty years later I'd say we're far more sensitive to words than we were then.

Maybe WWIII will fix that.
 
Nearly fifty years later I'd say we're far more sensitive to words than we were then.

Maybe WWIII will fix that.
In the olden days of my youth when someone called me something I didn't like
I'd say, " sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me!"

My mother, from the Neolithic period I think, taught me that.
Seems that nobody under a certain age
Knows that saying.
 
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Indeed, society has moved toward actively seeking to take offense and get hung up over everything in knee-jerk fashion (thereby giving the offending side the very satisfaction that they were looking for) instead of facing these things with true dignity and strength of character and letting them roll off of you and move forward.

I would like to think that advanced humanity centuries from now really has moved beyond such pettiness.

Kor
 
I'd imagine that in a world with no discrimination, no prejudice, no bigotry, and general equality, racial and ethnic pejoratives wouldn't have the same sting that they do today. No discrimination, no prejudice, no bigotry, and general equality wouldn't mean that "everyone gets treated like a white person" and nor would it preclude expressions of cultural diversity. A world without the freedom to express cultural diversity doesn't sound like a utopia.
 
Thinking it through a little more, what WOULD Probably Fake / Alien Abraham Lincoln In Space be able to say to you that would make you mad? Especially if "you" are the chief communications officer of a starship? I'd imagine you'd have to be a fairly chill individual.
 
I'd imagine that in a world with no discrimination, no prejudice, no bigotry, and general equality, racial and ethnic pejoratives wouldn't have the same sting that they do today. No discrimination, no prejudice, no bigotry, and general equality wouldn't mean that "everyone gets treated like a white person" and nor would it preclude expressions of cultural diversity. A world without the freedom to express cultural diversity doesn't sound like a utopia.
Cultural diversity is invisible in a military like organization.
 
1. The Federation is not a military-like organization.
The Federation isn't, but Starfleet is.

2. Starfleet crew members aren't on duty all the time.
Being on/off duty doesn't work like that, it just means you aren't actively working on the ship not that you are free to do whatever you want.

3. Even when they are on duty, Starfleet crew members don't think, talk, and act the same.
And any cultural tellings would be eliminated by the various service requirements.
 
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