No there haven't.
Please, not this argument again. People overwhelmingly assume heteronormitivity.
Does Stamets have a partner/husband?
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No there haven't.
Please, not this argument again. People overwhelmingly assume heteronormitivity.
We saw plenty of hetero characters and their relationships.
So letting gay characters and their relationships stop being invisible isn't pandering, it's just completely normal.
Certainly no more than a ttypical season of Game of Thrones, or West World.
If most networks/cable already have "it," and the majority of the audience consider "it" to be a standard part of a average population, and it would be deliberate decision on the parts of TPTB if "it" was excluded ... then how is it pandering in your mind?
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To me he will always be that British guy in that movie I can't recall that stared Steve Martin and some other lady who I also can't recall that was set in LA during either the late 80's or early 90's and they had romance.
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Actually Sir Pat played a Frenchman in that film.
"You think with a financial statement like this, you can have the duck?!?"
Only if they were gay pandas.
The only bad side to this is that I'll have to add Discovery to the list of television shows I can't watch around family. I'll have to wait until everyone else is asleep or no one is around to watch it. For better or for worse, my family is pretty conservative and religious. Oh well, pretty small sacrifice. I'll watch it and Supergirl back-to-back. 
I would think that, conservative and religious or not, your family has to know that there are average everyday people out there (people your family members might encounter as they go about their normal day) who happen to have same-sex life partners. Therefore, seeing people like that on TV should not really come as a surprise or be anything that they need to make a fuss about.The only bad side to this is that I'll have to add Discovery to the list of television shows I can't watch around family. I'll have to wait until everyone else is asleep or no one is around to watch it. For better or for worse, my family is pretty conservative and religious. Oh well, pretty small sacrifice. I'll watch it and Supergirl back-to-back.
Shielding your family from same-sex couples on a television show? Yeah, no, doesn't sound disparagingly homophobic at all. You might think this shit, but anyone with a shred of decency wouldn't post it openly on a message board.The only bad side to this is that I'll have to add Discovery to the list of television shows I can't watch around family. I'll have to wait until everyone else is asleep or no one is around to watch it. For better or for worse, my family is pretty conservative and religious. Oh well, pretty small sacrifice. I'll watch it and Supergirl back-to-back.
I understood his post in a completely different way.
I thought @Celestial meant that his family would refuse to watch it so he has to watch it alone. Not that he WANTS to "shield them".
If I did understand it wrong, I apologize. Language barriers and all that. Even then I don't know if I would talk so openly about my homophobic family with an emoticon smile on my face. But maybe that's just me.
^ yeah that's how I took it too - I think @Celestial is suffering "family stuck in the 1590s" syndrome.
That I'm really not sure about. I'm afraid I don't really follow Supergirl, but doesn't the series also feature a same-sex relationship amongst their main characters, just like Discovery will? Again, it might be entirely possible that I misunderstood all of what @Celestial was saying there (it happens
), but I think those two shows were mentioned because he can't watch both with his homophobic family.
That I'm really not sure about. I'm afraid I don't really follow Supergirl, but doesn't the series also feature a same-sex relationship amongst their main characters, just like Discovery will? Again, it might be entirely possible that I misunderstood all of what @Celestial was saying there (it happens
He seems to have expressed regret that his family won't be willing to watch these shows with him because both shows feature gay couples.
But at least he'll get to watch both shows back-to-back and enjoy them, hence the smiley.
Seeing that this is not the first time I misread someone's words regarding this topic on this board let alone in this very thread, I might just have to admit that this is some kind of hot button issue for me personally. When it comes to homophobia, sexism and racism, I have a really low threshold for people openly expressing their backwards thinking. But I think in doing so I might often jump the gun, assuming the wrong things and let anger take over. I'll try to make an effort and think twice the next time before responding to something like this.
Again, I'm sorry. Back to your regularly scheduled celebration of diversity in this new Star Trek.
Again, I'm sorry. Back to your regularly scheduled celebration of diversity in this new Star Trek.
It's been long overdue... I'm glad we're getting some man on man action now! ;-)
I read Celestial's comment a slight bit different then both M and Emilia. I am assuming that he does not necessarily want to shield his family from gay people, but that if his parents (I am assuming he his a child, or teen) find out what he is watching they will at best yank his CBS All Access away from him, at worst Pa is gonna get the belt.
What you call pandering, I call inclusion.
