It's just masturbation, but more elaborate.
Spoilers The Doctor Falls (Grade & Discussion Thread)
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It could just be a huge social taboo. Alternatively, the child could have genetic problems since the parents would have the same DNA (except for the gender switch).
Not quite the same since nobody can get pregnant from masturbation.
You're doing it wrong.
While Nardole was decapitated in "The Husbands of River Song," the robot was keeping his head alive. I always assumed that it was still his real head and that the Doctor just found a smaller, more human size robot body for him.
I liked the way they wrote him off in this episode. I'm less happy that he's still in mortal danger from the Cybermen. But his send off was sweet and made sense without taking up too much screen time.
I also liked Bill's departure. It doesn't work as well for me as it could have since I wasn't that crazy about the puddle lady from "The Pilot" to begin with. But I was desperately concerned for Bill for most of this 2-parter, so anything that doesn't leave her dead or as a Cyberman is a welcome relief.
Capaldi's Doctor has always struck me as someone desperately in search of the universe's complaint department. So, whereas Tennant took on a self pitying tone when it came for him to regenerate, Capaldi is more angry. This makes some sense given what the Doctor learned from "The Day of the Doctor." Tennant remembers being forced into a position where he had no choice but to destroy Gallifrey to end the Time War. Capaldi is a later Doctor who learned that there was a better way that he just failed to think of until 400 years later. So, while Tennant could think of himself as a victim, Capaldi can't afford to give up, lest there be a better way that he just hasn't thought of yet. We saw this in "Heaven Sent," where the Doctor clearly wants to quit but refuses to.
I get the impression that lots of time has passed since Capaldi's second season. Didn't the scene where Missy was put in the vault begin with 'long ago' or suchlike? And hasn't the Doctor been teaching in the university for 50+ years?
This begs the question.. And maybe this is a question for another thread.. But if the Doctor has been there for 50 years, would he not then be witness to all of the events of the world that have taken place with him involved in that time? Basically most of the 3rd and 4th Doctor's earth-bound adventures, along with all the alien invasions and such that NuWho has dealt with.. Not to mention the Master's time as Prime Minister? Or is he just in his own timeline... UGH.. I should just relax and enjoy the show.. Thinking about such things gives me a headache... lol
To hear Barry Letts tell it, it sounds like they never even considered any other actor besides Delgado in the role. If they wanted to bring back the Master at all, they would have just quietly left the character alone in case they wanted to bring him back later. They only planned a death because Delgado wanted to go out in a blaze of glory. And keep in mind, regeneration still wasn't the firmly established concept that it would later become in "The Deadly Assassin." Heck, it wasn't until that story that anyone even mentioned that there was a limit to how often a Time Lord could regenerate.
It's still possible that a subsequent production team would have decided to bring him back no matter what but Delgado's death scene was supposed to also feature some ambiguity as to whether he had deliberately saved the Doctor at the end.
With Missy, it was even less ambiguous. She was going to help the Doctor only to be killed in her tracks. I'm inclined to respect that ending. Even if she weren't dead, her arc is concluded. (If we do happen to see the Master again, I'd prefer it to be from somewhere earlier in his/her timeline.)
BTW, there's nothing on screen to indicate that Delgado was the last of the Master's original regenerations. He could have had many forms between "Frontier in Space" and "The Deadly Assassin."
Interviews with Moffat have indicated that while the Doctor doesn't fully remember the previous loops, he does pick up residual psychic memories from the previous versions. That's why he dramatically drops his soup spoon in that one scene, because he's remembering. He may not remember exactly what he did but he remembers being there and being there a lot of times before.
Probably. They were probably completely ostracized from Time Lord society if not outright executed, never to be spoken of again.
It makes some sense that Simm would be attracted to Missy while she wouldn't be attracted to him because he doesn't remember being her but she remembers being him, so the incesty vibe would be more real for her. For him, it's more just theoretical.
Sure he was there. But since he knew that his previous self already took care of it, there was no reason for him to interfere.
Similarly, I think the reason why he didn't help out Jack during "Children of Earth" and "Miracle Day" is because the TARDIS had already scanned the timeline and knew that Jack could handle it on his own.
Gotta take the 50-years thing with a pinch of salt. Remember, The Lodger had a perception filter telling people that the extra floor had always been there.
The Master kept the Doctor in a dog house and a bird cage, he had Jack chained up for a year and he later ate some people, he's a kinky boy. Plus he's completely in love with himself and his ego, stands to reason he'd want to sleep with himself/herself if given the chance.
Sperm can survive in a spa pool for almost 90 minutes.
Yes, that is exactly how masturbation turns into incest.
I just assumed there was seventy-five years in-between: fifty years spent teaching at the university, the twenty-four year night spent with River at the Singing Towers, and one year of random adventures which eventually ended with the Doctor being summoned for Missy's execution.
Yeah, but it's just as easy to assume that he really was there for 50 years. (Hadn't the professor from "Shada" been teaching at his university for an inhumanly long time too?)
What confused me was whether the Doctor had been guarding the vault for even longer than that using some other kind of cover identity.
No, they can't. A matter of seconds, if that. But it's a popular myth.
Fun bit, this
I will miss Missy <3
You know the answer to that: Television magic and plot armor.
That, and the same reason nothing is ever affected by a massive whatever in Doctor Who. He was in "the eye of the storm."
At this point, I think that trope is due to be undercut. Someone needs to try to blow something up, or trap something in a time bubble, or something, and have it be completely unscathed because whatever device they used happens to be completely ineffective at its own center of effect.
That was the implication in "The Pilot," when we first saw Nardole at the very beginning. He was squeaking and making mechanical noises when he moved, and then a bolt fell out of his arm. Presumably he kept up better when his oil changes after that.
Well thanks to my poorly scheduled holiday I only got to see this this Saturday and I have to say that it was well worth the wait. Managed to stay mostly spoiler free, though obviously couldn't ignore the First Doctor appearance (but that'd been talked about a lot on here as a possibility anyway).
It's odd because in so many ways this felt like a retread of several Moffat plots, yet in each case it managed to be superior. The Doctor defending a small town was clearly Time of the Doctor, but handled so much better, and Bill's conversion/salvation felt very like Clara's, only again so much better handled in so far as I was pleased rather than annoyed.
Cast were uniformly great, and Gomez and Simm bounced off each other wonderfully. Can't see how this is the last we've seen of the Master, as he's/she's been said he's been killed so many times she makes Rory look like an amateur
I hope it isn't the last we see of Gomez, even if she just pops back for a regeneration.
Nardole's exit was nicely handled. Lucas has been great and I really wish we'd had more of this particular Tardis team as they've worked well together.
I like Capaldi's holding off of regeneration because he's basically had enough, surprised it's taken this long to be honest. I know people don't like Moffat's monologue'ing but I thought the Doctor's justification of why he does what he does was spot on for the character, and I like that this wasn't about saving the Earth/universe/all of reality, it was about saving a handful of kids, maybe just for a few extra days/weeks/months but that made the Doctor's heroism all the more special (if he'd actually regenerated here I'd have said this was an Androzani level exit).
And so end's Capaldi's best season by far and probably the most enjoyable full season of Who (imo) since 6 (I liked 7A but 7B really dragged it down). I wish we'd had three years of 12/Bill/Nardole to be honest.
It's odd because in so many ways this felt like a retread of several Moffat plots, yet in each case it managed to be superior. The Doctor defending a small town was clearly Time of the Doctor, but handled so much better, and Bill's conversion/salvation felt very like Clara's, only again so much better handled in so far as I was pleased rather than annoyed.
Cast were uniformly great, and Gomez and Simm bounced off each other wonderfully. Can't see how this is the last we've seen of the Master, as he's/she's been said he's been killed so many times she makes Rory look like an amateur
I hope it isn't the last we see of Gomez, even if she just pops back for a regeneration.Nardole's exit was nicely handled. Lucas has been great and I really wish we'd had more of this particular Tardis team as they've worked well together.
I like Capaldi's holding off of regeneration because he's basically had enough, surprised it's taken this long to be honest. I know people don't like Moffat's monologue'ing but I thought the Doctor's justification of why he does what he does was spot on for the character, and I like that this wasn't about saving the Earth/universe/all of reality, it was about saving a handful of kids, maybe just for a few extra days/weeks/months but that made the Doctor's heroism all the more special (if he'd actually regenerated here I'd have said this was an Androzani level exit).
And so end's Capaldi's best season by far and probably the most enjoyable full season of Who (imo) since 6 (I liked 7A but 7B really dragged it down). I wish we'd had three years of 12/Bill/Nardole to be honest.
Aside from potential cameos, Gomez is probably done (more's the pity). I wouldn't have said no to a season of Missy taking up Doctoring duties and learning by degrees to adhere to the Doctor's version of "good".Cast were uniformly great, and Gomez and Simm bounced off each other wonderfully. Can't see how this is the last we've seen of the Master, as he's/she's been said he's been killed so many times she makes Rory look like an amateur
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