Spoilers The Doctor Falls (Grade & Discussion Thread)

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by TommyR01D, Jun 30, 2017.

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What is your view on the finale?

Poll closed Aug 1, 2017.
  1. This is the perfect ending!

    31 vote(s)
    34.8%
  2. Now that was really very nicely done.

    46 vote(s)
    51.7%
  3. No biggie.

    9 vote(s)
    10.1%
  4. A really rubbish one.

    3 vote(s)
    3.4%
  5. Like sewage, smart phones and Donald Trump!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. TommyR01D

    TommyR01D Captain Captain

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    The Mondasian Cybermen are on the rise. It’s time for the Doctor’s final battle…



    So it comes to this. This is doomsday. The last of the Time Lords have been brought together for the endgame. Everything has its time and all good things must someday draw to a close, including your reign with the name of The Doctor. Your place in history is determined by what you leave behind.

    Steven Moffat has only this finale, followed by his last Christmas. Does he plan for a peaceful parting of the ways, or is he hell bent on going out with a big bang?

    All is in play when The Doctor Falls.
     
  2. Lonemagpie

    Lonemagpie Writer Admiral

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    Over A Brick. No, seriously, I'd laugh, though...
     
  3. Professor Zoom

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    Poor Sixth Doctor... poor, poor Sixth Doctor...
     
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  4. kirk55555

    kirk55555 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Hopefully the 12th Doctor will have better last words then "Carrot Juice" :sigh:
     
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  5. Brefugee

    Brefugee Living the Irish dream. Premium Member

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    We'll be timeshifting this by a few hours as Mrs-Dimesdan has the Hurling on as her home county are playing and apparently that takes precedence over The Doctor tonight.
     
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  6. TommyR01D

    TommyR01D Captain Captain

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    The opening sequence had remarkably little speech.

    I recognise Samantha Spiro as Birgitt from Tracey Ullman's Show.
     
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  7. Haggis and tatties

    Haggis and tatties Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Well done to the BBC, last 10 mins the sound was completly broken.
     
  8. Emperor-Tiberius

    Emperor-Tiberius Commodore Commodore

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    The ending was pants.
     
  9. MacLeod

    MacLeod Admiral Admiral

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    Saheds of the 5th and 10th Doctor's regnerationtowards the end. Don't think it was quite as good at least week, perhaps they could have lost the additional 15ish minutes and tightened the story somewhat
     
  10. Emperor-Tiberius

    Emperor-Tiberius Commodore Commodore

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    His refusal to regenerate made a little more sense now. He doesn't want to keep altering his persona. With Ten, it was more about keeping that persona because he loved it so much.
     
  11. Green Lantern

    Green Lantern Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Very on edge, so that might have effected why I put this as 5/5 again. Only complaint would be the Master felt a bit shoehorned in and unnecessary really. Nice twist both Masters basically killed each other, but they'll be back somehow. The Bill scenes were particularly good. If only I didn't look at those Christmas set photos a couple days ago, the ending may have come as a complete surprise to me otherwise, but oh well. Overall a very good series this year, and I'm hoping Bill and Nardole return, and stay on for the next series (Bill at least anyway), but I can see them both being written out sadly.

    Also, it feels like they're definitely setting up a female Doctor, I'm just hoping id they do go that route they make a good casting choice, hopefully no one to young or pretty.
     
  12. matthunter

    matthunter Admiral Admiral

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    Fine here.
     
  13. matthunter

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    Mum swears Capaldi's hands switched to those of a woman during the regen glows... But is also basing it on wearing a ring, which Capaldoc does and she hasn't yet noticed.
     
  14. Captaindemotion

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    Wow, so much to process. The Bill resolution was kind of a copout but just about worked. But THAT cliffhanger - all I could've hoped for and more! Roll on Christmas!!!
     
  15. Green Lantern

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    Something else I've just remembered, when the Doctor was listing times he had defeated the Cybermen, didn't he list Marinus? Therefore making the Voord becoming Cybermen canon?
     
  16. matthunter

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    I'm guessing Missy hijacks part of Simms regen energy to kickstart her own, thus accounting for the lost memories even the "timelines being out of sync" couldn't.

    That or she realised/remembered the backzap moments before it happened and pulled another "absorb the energy or redirect it" gambit.

    Heather coming back was in my head but the setup of the tears was clever. And Capaldi was magnificent. As always.
     
  17. TommyR01D

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    1. There's a bit of a retread of The Family of Blood, with rural children shooting at scarecrows and the Doctor falling on important buttons.
    2. This was the bleakest aesthetic I've seen on Doctor Who for quite some time.
    3. We had a holodeck episode!
    4. The shuttle looked like something the NX-01 would carry.
    5. The doctrine of sonic screwdrivers not being weapons appears to have gone out of the window.
    6. This is the second consecutive companion to not realise she's been converted into a major recurring villain.
     
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  18. CaptainWacky

    CaptainWacky More than meets the eye Premium Member

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    Same for me. Must have been a BBC Scotland thing?
     
  19. Pindar

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    I was really enjoying it until the sound fucked up. Very annoying, totally ruined the ending.

    I've watched the end on iPlayer now but I'm still irritated.
     
  20. Lonemagpie

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    Right, that was OK. Two Masters was way funnier and more sensible than multi-Dcotr stories we've seen. Ended exactly on the moment I expected. Still too similar an end to the last time we had a season finale, of course... (dead-b ut-not-dead lesbians in space! Again! I mean, the more lesbians the better but...)

    Oh is it just me, or did the lighting make Simm really look like Simon Pegg throught...?
     
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