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Spoilers Section 31: Control by David Mack Review Thread

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I'm split on this one.

One particular quote stood out to me during Nyrok Turan's talk about how an ASI could shape reality:

"Change the contents of private conversations as they happen without the participants realizing they've been deceived."

That's a prospect that I have never considered. Since the dawn of instant messaging, be it via phones or computers, we've unquestioningly trusted that the messages we've received have been 100% accurate. And in reality, we have no reason to not to. But now the possibility of those messages could be wrong, could be altered without either party knowing is stuck in my mind. The level of trust that could be destroyed by such an action would be grave. The idea that something like that could happen is insidious (and not the good kind like root beer and the Federation).

This stood out to me too! Especially when you take into account the universal translator. Spoken conversations could be manipulated in real time and no one would ever know. It wouldn't even have to be a full blown re-write of the conversation that changes the literal meaning, but rather presenting the statements it in a nuanced way that would change the listeners' interpretation, driving that listener to react in a different way. That seems in line with Controls MO.
 
In that case, they should build the machines to automatically flush out the dispenser nozzle with water after each drink is dispensed.

I agree. Though, there could be a downside to making the change. Most people don't seem to notice the random odd taste with the current machines, and utilizing an automatic flush-system could lead to a lot of people complaining about wasted water (especially in drought-prone regions). I can see why they might not think it's worth the effort.

FYI: I would definitely recommend using the water flush technique if you're looking to avoid caffeine. Otherwise, you might get a splash of Cherry Coke (or some other caffeinated drink) in your Powerade.
 
I agree. Though, there could be a downside to making the change. Most people don't seem to notice the random odd taste with the current machines, and utilizing an automatic flush-system could lead to a lot of people complaining about wasted water (especially in drought-prone regions). I can see why they might not think it's worth the effort.

I was thinking maybe the water could be filtered out and recirculated within the machine, but on second thought, maybe that would defeat the purpose. You're probably right that the demand isn't great enough for the penny-pinchers to think it's worth the cost.

But, yeah, whenever I get water from one of those drink-dispenser nozzles that also dispense cola or Hi-C or whatever, I always flush them out a bit before I start filling my cup, so I don't get any soft drink or carbonation in my water. I can't stand carbonated beverages. It feels like drinking acid, because it literally is.
 
It's a good story, only a few bumps here and there or odd holes and cracks to paper over...why do they go to cardassia if Data has the Ivory Towers? Why take the risk on Orion if he has the Ivory Towers? The best friends of two of the main characters are two of starfleets best engineers, and even allowing for Controls presence in Starfleet systems, we know that one of them is easily contacted...and...my head hurts. and I mostly enjoyed it....
Not traveling directly to the Ivory Towers bothered me as well. The only explanation I could think of is that Garak had certain resources that Data knew Ivory Towers couldn't provide.

As for Geordi and Miles, I can understand why they wouldn't seek them out (putting them at risk) but I am surprised they weren't at least mentioned as a consideration.

--- why does Control actually try to stop Bashir and Data at the end if their mission is its mission? It seems like conformity with narrative expectations - that there must be a terrible fight at the end of the story, costing the heroes their lover or body. Ultimately, this felt a bit forced, especially since Control wanted them both to delete Uraei. Must we always have a fight. Structurally the in media res opening also felt unnecessary.
Yeah, this annoyed me as well. From Uraei/Control's perspective, it doesn't make sense to put up such a huge fight if it was ultimately manipulating them to destroy it. Some resistance is understandable, but such ugly, brutal fights? I guess it shows how megalomaniac Control is.

I did like the in media res opening, which something you don't usually see in novels. The misdirection in that scene regarding Serena was a nice touch, too.

--- What will happen to L'Haan and the other surviving directors...did Control kill them or will the cabal continue, in a new form?
The final chapter with Ozla mentioned they were all arrested except Jhun Kulkarno, who committed suicide a la Warden Norton to avoid arrest.

--- The chapter from Uraei's 'perspective' deciding and accounting for the fates of Admiral Ko and Ikerson; I wonder what happened to Rao too...
That was a great sequence. I hope David Mack verified that all of the code was accurately written (to my college computer science 101 eyes, it looked good).

So, spoilers and all that:

It, um….It didn’t work for me. Didn’t work for me at all.

The book’s well put together, it flows right along, and it’s a propulsive little thriller, as Mack’s work pretty much always is. It was really nice to see Data and Lal again, and a decent continuity bandage put on the conflict between Data’s position on Orion at the end of Cold Equations and where they were when The Light Fantastic started up. I absolutely loved the chapter told explicitly from Uraei’s point of view, largely in code. That was a nice POV shakeup in the book. I quite liked the idea of the backbone of 31’s surveillance and omniscient viewpoint being a code base that continually re-wrote and updated itself into the omnipresent LCARS system (and others) that we see in every 24th century episode.

The biggest problem, though, is that it took every erg of gray out of Section 31. There is no questioning of the morality of what 31 does in this book. It is simply assumed to be bad. Based on the actions we saw Uraei and its operatives take in this book, that’s understandable, and that’s part of what kills the story for me. Section 31 always worked for me as a cautionary tale. How a group of people could talk themselves into doing horrible things in order to preserve a way of life for a culture. How the things we do in the shadows look to those who live their lives largely in the light, and how you can’t always condemn people who do despicable things to serve a larger purpose. That we can question the motives for these actions, but that sometimes the ultimate result is a greater good. Section 31 works incredibly well as a storytelling device that way.

But this book destroys that.

The reason S31 does things the way it does is because a security AI decided that was the best way to do things. Simple, easy, done. No conscience, no questioning of itself or of its authority. The people who work for 31 may have questions and conundrums, but the orders always come from a source that wouldn’t regard these questions as valid. The people who created the AI made a mistake, and we can look at them as having their best efforts corrupted, but 31 itself is just evil.

The book paints 31 as essentially omnipotent, predicting just about every action of every person, pulling every string of everything that’s happened in the Federation for two centuries. The Romulans never having their genetic link to the Vulcans revealed after the war? 31 did that. The peace with the Klingon empire in 2293? That wasn’t due to the heroic actions of Kirk and Spock, or of a man questioning his own deep-seated hatred of certain people, coming out of a long dark tunnel into the light. Turns out 31 arranged all that. It even seems to be attempting to take credit for the Caeliar’s destruction/transformation of the Borg Collective.

There’s never anything but lip service paid to the fact that Graniv’s expose of 31 could do far more harm than good. I mean, we get what, a couple of sentences at the end of the book saying the Typhon Pact and the Romulans are kinda pissed? I guess we’re meant to accept “Well, the truth is always good” and just go with it. Because, again, the book removes the shades of grey that the best of the 31 stories always showcased so well.

And, of course, in the end, nothing matters anyway. Because all of Bashir’s work is pointless, because 31 is in the background, petting a cat, and saying “No, you see, Mister Bond, I had this planned all along…” and just continues on with its plans.

It bugged me, and I feel like the book is destined to be largely forgotten, because it has to be. Apparently nothing of any consequence happened in the 23rd or 24th Century without 31 knowing about it ahead of time. If anything is happening to the characters in the Federation, we can basically assume that it only occurred because Control let it, and will continue to let things happen depending on whether it allows it. These revelations probably should’ve started a quadrant-wide war within days. The Federation has planted malicious code in the systems of its enemies and allies alike. And not a couple of backdoors, a full on surveillance state. The Klingons should’ve been bombing Earth by the end of the day. But that won’t happen (Or at least I assume it won’t) because that’s not the way the books are trending right now. Probably the only major fallout for this will be that Bashir, who was already basically a background character due to the Andorian thing, will be even more so for a while.

No disrespect to Mack. I’ve always liked his books, and I’ll be there for the next one. But the concept behind this one was fatally flawed.
I absolutely agree with all of this. I covered some of this in my review, but you covered an aspect that I forgot about: The grey area of Section 31 and how it becomes outright black and white in this book.

This stood out to me too! Especially when you take into account the universal translator. Spoken conversations could be manipulated in real time and no one would ever know. It wouldn't even have to be a full blown re-write of the conversation that changes the literal meaning, but rather presenting the statements it in a nuanced way that would change the listeners' interpretation, driving that listener to react in a different way. That seems in line with Controls MO.
Great point about the universal translator. I was thinking more of terms of real life, but that aspect works in the novel, too, especially considering Control even engages its network with the early development of the universal translator. I really wish this aspect had been explored more. Makes my skin crawl.
 
I understand that any government must have multiple intelligence organizations, but I feel that this novel was missing something by not mentioning the Cardassian Intelligence Bureau as "Rocks and Shoals" and several of Una McCormack's novels have.
 
Terrific read. But I have to just say, wow, there is no love for DS9 characters. It seems like they all go through some harsh physical pain post TV.

Just off the top of my head, Kira and Ro attacked by Taran'atar (also written by David Mack I believe), then Vaughn with the Borg, then more recently Odo and a resurrected/time traveling Kira. Sorry to see Sarina go. Looks like Bashir is going to be out of commission for a while.

Loved the Data and Lal interactions. And it was good to see Garak again.
 
Still not convinced that drinks are mixed from components on demand.
The final chapter made the sacrifices of Data,Bashir and Sarina seem meaningless.
 
Yeah, this annoyed me as well. From Uraei/Control's perspective, it doesn't make sense to put up such a huge fight if it was ultimately manipulating them to destroy it. Some resistance is understandable, but such ugly, brutal fights? I guess it shows how megalomaniac Control is.

Consider this. One of the greatest artificial intellects ever, and a geneticly enhanced superbrain. If you do not resist strongly enough, like your very life depended on it, they're gonna notice. And wonder, and hesitate. No, if you want someone to believe you're scared for your existence, you'd better put up a convincing fight.
 
Consider this. One of the greatest artificial intellects ever, and a geneticly enhanced superbrain. If you do not resist strongly enough, like your very life depended on it, they're gonna notice. And wonder, and hesitate. No, if you want someone to believe you're scared for your existence, you'd better put up a convincing fight.
I suppose so, but it still seems convoluted. Why not state its goal as self-destruction? Or why involve one of the greatest artificial intellects ever and someone with a genetically-enhanced superbrain in the first place?
 
I suppose so, but it still seems convoluted. Why not state its goal as self-destruction? Or why involve one of the greatest artificial intellects ever and someone with a genetically-enhanced superbrain in the first place?

Appereantly it made sure the geneticly engineered children were created to be able to use in its downfall. Not 100% sure about that one. As for Data... someone that's physically capable of entering Memory Prime, know about Memory Prime and being able to fight the avatar of Control?
 
@Sci, I always like your posts on the politics of the Trek universe, so I'm honestly really curious to hear your take once you wrap this one up.

Thank you for your kind words.

I only just finished Section 31: Control about an hour ago, and I'm still digesting it.

The one thing I will say right off the bat is this: I do not think that United Earth and the United Federation of Planets would not have happened without Uraei. I do, however, think that Uraei probably sped things up by unjustly removing from the scene political actors whose influence would likely have slowed things down. I do not consider that to mean that the Federation is inherently fraudulent -- after all, the overwhelming number of Federation citizens and Federation leaders never knew Uraei or Section 31 existed.
 
Thank you for your kind words.

I only just finished Section 31: Control about an hour ago, and I'm still digesting it.

The one thing I will say right off the bat is this: I do not think that United Earth and the United Federation of Planets would not have happened without Uraei. I do, however, think that Uraei probably sped things up by unjustly removing from the scene political actors whose influence would likely have slowed things down. I do not consider that to mean that the Federation is inherently fraudulent -- after all, the overwhelming number of Federation citizens and Federation leaders never knew Uraei or Section 31 existed.

I completely agree. Forces were already in motion before Uraei was created and became Control. The chain of events set in motion with humanity going to the stars would have always led to some form of alliance. Maybe with a different name, maybe at a different time, maybe with different players. Perhaps even without humans.
 
I completely agree. Forces were already in motion before Uraei was created and became Control. The chain of events set in motion with humanity going to the stars would have always led to some form of alliance. Maybe with a different name, maybe at a different time, maybe with different players. Perhaps even without humans.

Yeah -- I tend to think that planet-scale sociopolitical forces are too multifaceted for a computer program to effectively control, at least at Uraei's stage of development in the 2160s.

I will concede, however, that the presence of the Interstellar Coalition in A Less Perfect Union and of the Interstellar Union in The Tears of Eridanus both leave open the possibility of Uraei or a similar ASI operating in those timelines; indeed, in A Less Perfect Union, apparently some version of Uraei must have been created if the divergence point was "Demons/Terra Prime." On the other hand, the fact that Humans weren't the predominant culture in those polities leaves open the possibility that Uraei simply did not work in those timelines, especially the Andorian-centric Interstellar Union. So who knows?

But my suspicion is definitely that Uraei sped things up, not that Uraei controlled them. (In fairness, that Uraei may have sped things up makes a certain morbid sense -- the Federation worlds really did rush into creating the UFP after the war.)
 
Yeah -- I tend to think that planet-scale sociopolitical forces are too multifaceted for a computer program to effectively control, at least at Uraei's stage of development in the 2160s.

I will concede, however, that the presence of the Interstellar Coalition in A Less Perfect Union and of the Interstellar Union in The Tears of Eridanus both leave open the possibility of Uraei or a similar ASI operating in those timelines; indeed, in A Less Perfect Union, apparently some version of Uraei must have been created if the divergence point was "Demons/Terra Prime." On the other hand, the fact that Humans weren't the predominant culture in those polities leaves open the possibility that Uraei simply did not work in those timelines, especially the Andorian-centric Interstellar Union. So who knows?

But my suspicion is definitely that Uraei sped things up, not that Uraei controlled them. (In fairness, that Uraei may have sped things up makes a certain morbid sense -- the Federation worlds really did rush into creating the UFP after the war.)

Considering how fast we went from nothing to the Coalition of Planets to the UFP.....
 
Dan and Bruce had a great interview with David about Control on the latest Literary Treks and they dive in deep to a lot of the themes and story points.
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