The same can be said--with ease--about Democrats; they habitually blast / attempt to ridicule any entertainer who happens to be conservative, right down to the long dried up Hitler comparisons in some cases.
Patrick Stewart Wants To Become A U.S. Citizen To Fight Trump
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The same can be said--with ease--about Democrats; they habitually blast / attempt to ridicule any entertainer who happens to be conservative, right down to the long dried up Hitler comparisons in some cases.
Unless you can show me a widespread pattern of Democrats saying that celebrities in general shouldn't comment on politics, rather than criticism of individual celebrities for their specific views, then no, it's not remotely the same thing at all.
I said those who happen to be conservative--(not your "in general")--a minority in the majority liberal entertainment business, and one often ridiculed for whatever position they hold. In some cases, its gone beyond mere position, as revealed by Ben Affleck (in 2014) when he said:
So, his mind is so locked in a one-way-or-no-way mentality that he cannot divorce a performance from the performer. That's bordering on hatred.
Yes, I'm aware of what YOU said, but that was not what I had been discussing previously, which was the hypocrisy of Republicans/conservatives saying celebrities should not get involved in politics and then turning around and consistently voting celebrities into political office. You're arguing something completely different.
Not surprised. I thought Alabama's waning steel economy would get some boost.
A strong NLRB is worth 20 Trumps.
Good luck with that.
I'm truly shocked that a politican would say one thing and do another. (and just to be clear I'm being sarcastic)
In other Great News (well maybe not so great for the US tourist industry) but potentially great for Canada and Mexico.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39121276
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2017/feb/28/us-tourism-experiences-a-trump-slump
This thread needs some Patrick Stewart fun.
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When your dog looks like Patrick Stewart
To be fair here I've heard little or no bad things being said about conservative and libertarian actors like Kurt Russell and Kelsey Grammer, and "notorious" libertarian comedian, actor and gameshow host Drew Carey seems to have a career that's chugging along just fine. Bruce Willis is supposedly a huge prick on movie sets and some people in the industry are wary of him, but that's not because he has a long history of voting Republican and supporting conservative-leaning candidates but because he can be a smug asshole who bosses directors and fellow actors around like he's the most or only important guy in the film.
If you make Hollywood money and your films and TV shows are popular the industry doesn't care nearly as much as you seem to believe they do. Are center-left or avowedly leftist actors the prevailing creature in the entertainment industry? Sure. Does that mean the industry goes out of its way to demean or destroy conservative actors, singers and musicians? Not based on most of what I've seen.
Ask Jon Voight if he cares or is in fear for his career. Or Arnold Schwarzenegger. That man has been (until now) a pretty close pal of every Republican President going back to Reagan, served almost eight years as Governor of the nation's richest and most populous state and is one of the biggest moneymaking draws in the history of cinema. He's also a Republican, albeit a more liberal one. Nobody ran him out of the business because he used to hang out with the Bush family and was cozy with Ronald Reagan.
Who was also a Hollywood actor.
All that sounds right except Grammer: he's a pretty notorious asshole.
I am ROFLOL at the idea that a cabinet of billionaires giving a squat about the white working class poor or anyone that is poor and economically deprived. How do you think some of them made their money? By only buying American goods and using American labour and paying decent wages? LOL
You think Trump and his crew are poachers turned gamekeepers??
You think Trump and his crew are poachers turned gamekeepers??
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If Sir Patrick has a good accountant (and he can afford one) he won't be paying 45%. Rich people do not pay the high rate of taxes, if they did tax accountants would be unemployed.
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The USA is one of the most least densely populated nations on the planet.
Out of 242 nations/regions, the U.K is number 50, the USA is not even in the top 100, you are 176 out of 242. You have the space.
(I bet my indigenous ancestors wished they had an immigration policy in the 17th century...)
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We may have the space. We also undoubtedly have the right to control our borders. IMHO a borderless world does not work here in the early 21st century.
Oh, right. The marital and alcohol issues, right? A few of the details of his personal life are starting to come back to me.
And who is arguing for a borderless world?
It's been my experience that those that argue most strenuously against controlling the US borders and the flow of people coming in are those that support an open boarder policy.
Your argument was based on space and resource limits, not rights, which is why she countered with the rebuttal she did.
"There is a limit to the amount of immigrants our country can absorb."
Remember when you said that? Then all of a sudden when she discredited the space issue you switched to a rights-based "borderless world" argument that no one was either advancing or arguing in favor of.
"We may have the space. We also undoubtedly have the right to control our borders. IMHO a borderless world does not work here in the early 21st century."
That's what's called a strawman argument.
We're nowhere near a borderless world, and yet there's a vast array of options between "no borders" and "keep absolutely everyone else out."
Let's not pretend a phrase like "secure the border" means anything specific--it is a right-wing dogwhistle for "let's persecute foreigners and anyone who might be mistaken for one."
Let's not pretend a phrase like "secure the border" means anything specific--it is a right-wing dogwhistle for "let's persecute foreigners and anyone who might be mistaken for one."
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