Blade Runner 2

[jaime]

Well ... Crystal Skull was written by David Koepp, which is The Kiss of Death, to begin with. He ranks right down there with John Logan. But Ford leapt me right out of the movie, when he was fighting with that Russian at the rocket complex. I could sort of excuse the swinging from the whip, through the warehouse, because it's just a convention of Jones' in this franchise. His whip has always been magic, especially how it untangles itself with just a tug, no matter what it's wrapped around, or how taught it became. But when I saw him swinging from the chain, bursting through the glass and beating the living shit out of this Russian who's twice his size and a third his age ... I got very uncomfortable. I felt insulted, I guess it was.

Like, in The Voyage Home, nobody does anything, physically, that's beyond belief, what someone in their age bracket might be expected to do. Only Shatner's rug defies all Reality. But Ford really needs to start accepting his age. I know I've accepted his age, already. I mean ... I can see him running, without getting overly winded, as long as he's not outpacing a 30 year old. I can easily accept him shooting people with considerable accuracy. I can even accept him surprising a youngin' with a 1-2 punch that knocked them on their ass and out cold, for a while. But Indy's gymnastics of Crystal Skull make me kind of want to turn my head and look away. It's too dreadfully embarrassing.

Hey, dude drank from the Holy Grail, gotta cut him some slack. Only the fridge really bothers me in that film tbh. And the stupid stupid Ray Winstone character going back and forth that just doesn't work. Everything else is pretty remarkable given the time between sequels etc.

 

[2takesfrakes]

Hahaha ...!!! Yes, indeed! Indy put his lips to the same cup Jesus drank from and I do like that Lucas drew on Christianity a little bit, for The Last Crusade, but that's another shite movie, as well. Sean Connery, though ... he did impress me, very much, with his acting. There's not a trace of 007, even when his fling with Elsa's revealed. He's just a kindly old fart, who kind of belongs in a laboratory, studying artifacts. Which is what Indy should've became in Crystal Skull. But no ... Henry Jones, Jr. hasn't a trace of rheumatism. In fact ... I'm half convinced he's actually from the planet Krypton.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

The teaser music and ambience was perfect IMHO. I hope it's as good in 2049 because Vangelis' music is a big part of Blade Runner's atmosphere.

Let's hope Jóhann Jóhannsson does a good job as well. If the announcement's background music is his then I'm really positive!

OK, I was afraid of this, but I guess I was a little too optimistic. From Jóhann Jóhannsson's Facebook page:

"Warner Bros. Pictures reveal the first trailer for Denis Villeneuve's Blade Runner 2049. We feel we need to make note that, as with most trailers, the composer has nothing to do with the choice of trailer music and none of it was written by Jóhann Jóhannsson".

That's too bad as I really liked the trailer music. I hope the actual movie music score is as good.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Hahaha ...!!! Yes, indeed! Indy put his lips to the same cup Jesus drank from and I do like that Lucas drew on Christianity a little bit, for The Last Crusade, but that's another shite movie, as well. Sean Connery, though ... he did impress me, very much, with his acting. There's not a trace of 007, even when his fling with Elsa's revealed. He's just a kindly old fart, who kind of belongs in a laboratory, studying artifacts. Which is what Indy should've became in Crystal Skull. But no ... Henry Jones, Jr. hasn't a trace of rheumatism. In fact ... I'm half convinced he's actually from the planet Krypton.

WTF? Last Crusade a shite movie???

 

[2takesfrakes]

Yes, I really hated The Last Cruisade. It was passionless, for the most part. It had no "edge" to it, if you like, as it did seem to be lighter in tone, for one thing. Nothing about the movie felt organic, at all. Right out of the gate, the Young Indiana Jones stuff sucked, but that wasn't the actor's fault. He just got stuck with lame material. Later, when Indy and Dad go to Berlin to find the diary (without any "plan" on how to retrieve it, they just go). Immediately upon arrival, who's Indy encounter alone -- and what does she have on her? That's right, Elsa & the diary.

I don't expect Spielberg to make a meal of rediscovering the diary, but it played out as completely false. Though the Hitler autograph shot, I have to admit, was a winner. John Rhyse-Davies' attempt to save Brody from the two Nazi's on the street and all of the "jokiness" before that just fell flat. Spielberg, clearly, wasn't interested in any of that. Resultantly, the Nazi truck surprise had no impact.

I could accept the Knight living for Ages, that's kind of the deal with The Holy Grail, but that whole sequence in his cup cove really sucked. The British lady playing Elsa was quite wonderful, though. She elevated her bit part, considerably and is one of the few joys The Last Crusade offers. Very beautiful, very femme and at the same time, she's right in the thick of things, with rats chomping on her wet hair, racing a boat getting shot at and the whole bit. I just hate how wish-washy she turns out, especially towards the end.

As I said earlier, though, Sean Connery was also quite impressive. No bravado, in this one, he just plays "Dad." I love it when Indy mows down some Nazis in front of him and he's all like, "Junior! Look what you did! I can't believe what you just did!" Hahaha ...!!! That always gets me. And finally, several effects outright suck in this one. I don't know what ILM's problems were, but most bluescreen shots are of very low quality.

 

[Deckerd]

I can't believe someone is complaining about an actor ageing and offending his precious sensibilities. Boo hoo. The more people realise that ageing doesn't affect anyone's ability to be a good actor the more stupid arguments like this will fade out. When they walked on to the Millennium Falcon and he said "Chewie we're home" I was choked.

 

[2takesfrakes]

Exactly! Now that Harrison Ford's beyond old, the only appeal he has is nostalgia. He's trying so hard to convince people that he's still Leading Man, material. He even did some movie where he, as an old fart, gets stuck on this island with a smokin' hotty and despite the age difference, they get it on. I mean ... what audience are they making this shite for? People age out of situations and circumstances that flew, before. Like a 40 year old hitting the clubs, I mean ... who's kidding who, here?

We age out, it's just a fact of life. I know that doesn't thrill old people and it shouldn't ... being elderly isn't fun. But when you've been put out to pasture, where you are is where you are. I'm not saying that old actors can't play interesting parts, but how can they "buck the system" when they are the system? They only get in the way of the young, trying to pretend that they're still young, themselves.

 

[jaime]

Exactly! Now that Harrison Ford's beyond old, the only appeal he has is nostalgia. He's trying so hard to convince people that he's still Leading Man, material. He even did some movie where he, as an old fart, gets stuck on this island with a smokin' hotty and despite the age difference, they get it on. I mean ... what audience are they making this shite for? People age out of situations and circumstances that flew, before. Like a 40 year old hitting the clubs, I mean ... who's kidding who, here?

We age out, it's just a fact of life. I know that doesn't thrill old people and it shouldn't ... being elderly isn't fun. But when you've been put out to pasture, where you are is where you are. I'm not saying that old actors can't play interesting parts, but how can they "buck the system" when they are the system? They only get in the way of the young, trying to pretend that they're still young, themselves.

Wasn't that seven days seven nights...and about 16 years ago. Wasn't the smokin hotty outed as Ellen degeneres girlfriend at the time? Or was she in Volcano with pierce...it's all a blur.
Truth is, Harrison isn't doing anything wrong, he still does his best, and us who were kids when he was the bigger star don't mind seeing these characters do one more thing. *shrug*
They already messed up my Blade Runner with the directors cut, so I have nothing to lose seeing this one. Needs Sean Young

 

[2takesfrakes]

100% in agreement that Blade Runner 2 needs Sean Young in it, if Harrison Ford's signed on. As far as 6 Days 7 nights goes, I saw it for the first and only time 7 years ago, at my (then) girlfriend's house. I don't remember much, but Harrison Ford seemed old, even then and it just came across as a Chick Flick and I couldn't engage myself in it. All any Man and woman - no matter how different, or incompatible - need to get it on is a few days on a deserted island, together. That's this movie's message - as whacked out as any other Chick Flick's. They are very hard to sit though ...

 

[Tosk]

Or was she in Volcano with pierce

Tommy Lee. Pierce was in the other one with Sarah Connor.

 

[Harvey]

Even in BR2, Harrison Ford looks so OLD!!! Really sad, how decrepit he looks. He'll make Sean Young look younger, at least, so it's sweet that it flatters her. He has no appeal left, though, outside of nostalgia, alone.

You need to get your eyes checked. Ford doesn't look a day over 60 in those photos, let alone 74!

I don't know about you, but I'll be lucky to look half as good as he does when I'm his age.

 

[Greg Cox]

Tommy Lee. Pierce was in the other one with Sarah Connor.

Dante's Peak.

 

[2takesfrakes]

How is 60 at all youthful, compared to anything, though? There's not a trace of youth in that age. Look, none of this really matters. He's as old as dirt, as if nobody knows that, already. I've already typed it out, before, what my thoughts are on his attempts at reliving glory days. My views on it haven't changed. What I'd rather discuss, honestly, is Sean Young's involvement.

In perusing imagery for Blade Runner, consistently and without fail, Rachel repeatedly shows up. And I'm not just talking about posters and publicity stills. Apparently, there's quite a bit of Rachel cosplay out there, that I was previously unfamiliar with. Even some professional models go out of their way to get a Rachel shoot done, for their own enjoyment, I guess, and to post on The Internet. She was a big part of the show and continues to inspire young women, with her style and sophistication.

Sean Young can't really bring that now, of course, but she does offer an interesting aspect to Blade Runner 2 that no other character could bring: what it means to be a "mature" replicant. Even Voyager's Kes had a natural lifespan longer than the other replicants we've met. So, there's some interesting roads to explore with the Rachel character, still, and to see how Deckard helped her through all of that ...

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Even in BR2, Harrison Ford looks so OLD!!! Really sad, how decrepit he looks. He'll make Sean Young look younger, at least, so it's sweet that it flatters her. He has no appeal left, though, outside of nostalgia, alone.

He really has to get out of the Action/Adventure market and start playing bit parts as somebody's grandfather, from now on.

Exactly! Now that Harrison Ford's beyond old, the only appeal he has is nostalgia. He's trying so hard to convince people that he's still Leading Man, material. He even did some movie where he, as an old fart, gets stuck on this island with a smokin' hotty and despite the age difference, they get it on. I mean ... what audience are they making this shite for? People age out of situations and circumstances that flew, before. Like a 40 year old hitting the clubs, I mean ... who's kidding who, here?

We age out, it's just a fact of life. I know that doesn't thrill old people and it shouldn't ... being elderly isn't fun. But when you've been put out to pasture, where you are is where you are. I'm not saying that old actors can't play interesting parts, but how can they "buck the system" when they are the system? They only get in the way of the young, trying to pretend that they're still young, themselves.

As far as 6 Days 7 nights goes, I saw it for the first and only time 7 years ago, at my (then) girlfriend's house. I don't remember much, but Harrison Ford seemed old, eve02.n then and it just came across as a Chick Flick and I couldn't engage myself in it. All any Man and woman - no matter how different, or incompatible - need to get it on is a few days on a deserted island, together. That's this movie's message - as whacked out as any other Chick Flick's. They are very hard to sit though ...

She was a big part of the show and continues to inspire young women, with her style and sophistication.

Sean Young can't really bring that now, of course, but she does offer an interesting aspect to Blade Runner 2 that no other character could bring: what it means to be a "mature" replicant.

What an ugly string of posts this is. A toxic personality is far more unattractive than someone having the nerve to go through the aging process, and if one is not careful they can wind up with a double whammy when they get older too. Shallowness, immaturity, ageism, and sexism are not appealing qualities.

Six Days and Seven Nights was made nineteen years ago, so are you really saying Harrison Ford should have been "put out to pasture" in his mid-fifties? Well, since you think forty year olds should also pack it in and no longer go out clubbing I guess so. Your life is going to be long and tedious if you follow your own rules. By the way, Ford's wife is 22 years younger than he is, so the age difference of the couple in the film actually bore out in his real life. Not that I think casting should make a habit of those age disparities, because it unfortunately affects actresses negatively more than actors, and they're relegated to old grandma or spinster roles at younger and younger ages by people who think like you, despite the reality being that people are living longer, healthier, and more active lifestyles. The roles should reflect that, not be stuck in some ridiculous Logan's Run view of aging where people no longer have use to society once they reach a certain age. And contrary to your limited worldview, lots of older people have fun.

Sean Young can no longer "inspire young women with her style and sophistication" because she's gotten older? Are you for real with this shit? Grow up, dude.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

Even in BR2, Harrison Ford looks so OLD!!! Really sad, how decrepit he looks. He'll make Sean Young look younger, at least, so it's sweet that it flatters her. He has no appeal left, though, outside of nostalgia, alone.

He really has to get out of the Action/Adventure market and start playing bit parts as somebody's grandfather, from now on. I didn't even want to see him in his last Indiana Jones movie, but a friend invited me to see it in the cinema with him, he'd even pay my way, but I told him to get the 'F' lost, with it and he never let it go.

He ended up buying me the DVD with a booklet and all this with it, because I MUST see Crystal Skull. And...............it sucked. Yes, there are age jokes directed at Ford in it, but I'm still watching him living out some 2nd Childhood Fantasy. He's spry, I'll give him that, but really ... it's past time to take on age-appropriate roles for Mr. Ford.

Exactly! Now that Harrison Ford's beyond old, the only appeal he has is nostalgia. He's trying so hard to convince people that he's still Leading Man, material. He even did some movie where he, as an old fart, gets stuck on this island with a smokin' hotty and despite the age difference, they get it on. I mean ... what audience are they making this shite for? People age out of situations and circumstances that flew, before. Like a 40 year old hitting the clubs, I mean ... who's kidding who, here?

We age out, it's just a fact of life. I know that doesn't thrill old people and it shouldn't ... being elderly isn't fun. But when you've been put out to pasture, where you are is where you are. I'm not saying that old actors can't play interesting parts, but how can they "buck the system" when they are the system? They only get in the way of the young, trying to pretend that they're still young, themselves.

100% in agreement that Blade Runner 2 needs Sean Young in it, if Harrison Ford's signed on. As far as 6 Days 7 nights goes, I saw it for the first and only time 7 years ago, at my (then) girlfriend's house. I don't remember much, but Harrison Ford seemed old, even then and it just came across as a Chick Flick and I couldn't engage myself in it. All any Man and woman - no matter how different, or incompatible - need to get it on is a few days on a deserted island, together. That's this movie's message - as whacked out as any other Chick Flick's. They are very hard to sit though ...

How is 60 at all youthful, compared to anything, though? There's not a trace of youth in that age. Look, none of this really matters. He's as old as dirt, as if nobody knows that, already. I've already typed it out, before, what my thoughts are on his attempts at reliving glory days. My views on it haven't changed. What I'd rather discuss, honestly, is Sean Young's involvement.

In perusing imagery for Blade Runner, consistently and without fail, Rachel repeatedly shows up. And I'm not just talking about posters and publicity stills. Apparently, there's quite a bit of Rachel cosplay out there, that I was previously unfamiliar with. Even some professional models go out of their way to get a Rachel shoot done, for their own enjoyment, I guess, and to post on The Internet. She was a big part of the show and continues to inspire young women, with her style and sophistication.

Sean Young can't really bring that now, of course, but she does offer an interesting aspect to Blade Runner 2 that no other character could bring: what it means to be a "mature" replicant. Even Voyager's Kes had a natural lifespan longer than the other replicants we've met. So, there's some interesting roads to explore with the Rachel character, still, and to see how Deckard helped her through all of that ...

Have you even watched the original Blade Runner film? It's not an action movie! There isn't a single thing that 40 year old Harrison Ford did in the original, that 74 year old Harrison Ford can't replicate in the sequel.

 

[JD]

I don't really see what the problem is with Harrison Ford, as long as he's able to keep up and continue to do this kind of stuff then I'm all for it. I'm not bothered by seeing an older actor as a lead as long as it makes sense, and so far all of the recent roles Ford has gotten have.
As for Sean Young, sure she might have been good in the first one, but I don't see why it's a problem that she isn't in this one. If Deckard is the only character they need to tell the story they want to tell, then I'm fine with that. I'd rather see a good story with just Deckard, then see them force an appearance by Rachel or other characters from the first where it isn't needed and just distracts from the story they are telling.

 

[Christopher]

I heard a good comeback in a Kolchak: The Night Stalker episode when a character insulted the elderly -- I don't recall the exact wording, but it was along the lines of "Do you think you're immune to aging?" The gist being that it's pretty shortsighted to put down older people, because we're all going to be old ourselves eventually, if we're lucky.

 

[jaime]

Have you even watched the original Blade Runner film? It's not an action movie! There isn't a single thing that 40 year old Harrison Ford did in the original, that 74 year old Harrison Ford can't replicate in the sequel.

I wouldn't let him leap on cars or between buildings too much. Or get his nose picked by a gymnastic doll.

 

[jaime]

I don't really see what the problem is with Harrison Ford, as long as he's able to keep up and continue to do this kind of stuff then I'm all for it. I'm not bothered by seeing an older actor as a lead as long as it makes sense, and so far all of the recent roles Ford has gotten have.
As for Sean Young, sure she might have been good in the first one, but I don't see why it's a problem that she isn't in this one. If Deckard is the only character they need to tell the story they want to tell, then I'm fine with that. I'd rather see a good story with just Deckard, then see them force an appearance by Rachel or other characters from the first where it isn't needed and just distracts from the story they are telling.

It's a sequel with Deckard in, whose 'disappearance' was with Rachael, largely inspired by Rachael, and in the original, he left to be with...Rachael. I would expect a flashback minimum. Even the less than good sequel books had her in a fridge, and a background motivation for events, and had Tyrell's niece turn up...looking like Rachael. She's kind of integral. She's the unicorn.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

I wouldn't let him leap on cars or between buildings too much. Or get his nose picked by a gymnastic doll.

OMG you're right! That's even more crazy than the stunts Tom Cruise does in a Mission: Impossible movie.

I wonder what Ryan Gosling's character will be doing in the whole movie if Deckard does all the above once again…