The celebration of the 50th is not good enough

[jamestyler]

This was the first thread I saw wen I woke up this morning. Since then I've dealt with dozens of media requests for specials on through the day and night.

All things considered, I think we're doing alright!

 

[Tallguy]

If you were on Gallifrey Base during Doctor Who's 50th you would have seen the same whining and complaining. Not enough celebration of the 50th of Doctor Who. To listen to some of them they believed there should have been a worldwide holiday, a formal declaration by the Queen accompanied by fireworks over the River Thames....all year long.

I don't see what would be so inappropriate about that.

 

[seigezunt]

I'll take having a great new movie and a new series in production any day over a boatload of clip shows and talking heads repeating the same mythology over and over.

Mission New York counted as my 50th party, and that was pretty damn good.

 

[tomalak301]

I've been having my own celebration. I've been rewatching the original, TAS, and I'm almost done with Voyager. I went to Star Trek Las Vegas earlier this year and I loved Beyond and I hope Discovery is great too. All in all, I've had fun this anniversary year.

 

[wayoung]

I'm a disappointed there wasn't more TV specials, but I understand it. Outside of TV there's been a ton of 50th anniversary stuff. Beer, merchandise (exorbitantly priced imo but it's there and I bought my enterprise quadcopter anyway), museum exhibits (interactive and not), special convention panels, news reports, articles, videos, etc online - there have even been a few TV specials but not highly advertised or big stations. Space in Canada did a multiple day marathon with the ten "best" episodes from each series. All in all I don't feel like there is as much excitement as, say, Bond had, but there is plenty put there.

That's not to say I wouldn't have liked more but, hey, we still got a lot.

 

[urbandefault]

I've watched TOS episodes here and there, rewatched the first 12 movies, saw #13 in theater, and just ordered Shatner's book Leonard. That's my celebration, and it's plenty for me.

 

[Kemaiku]

http://www.mint.ca/store/coins/pure...up-delta-coin-–-mintage-1500-2016-prod2680041

If you have the money to spare...

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Four new board games, three great, one crap, so I'm pretty happy.

 

[Tallguy]

Four new board games, three great, one crap, so I'm pretty happy.

Which ones are great? (And... the other one?)

 

[diankra]

I don't remember the Beeb doing much for DW's 40th Anniversary, when the show was off the air, sure we knew it was coming offit's long hiatus or uncancelled depending on how generous you are feeling. Did we get much for ST 40th Anniversary? Nothing really springs to mind but I could simply have forgotten. We got two speical episodes for the 30th (when ST was in production), a film for the 25th with a new show on the way for the 25th.

I was simply being pragmatic with my comment.

And if you look back, Who fans were not happy going into 2013. One season spread over two years? No vintage Doctors? It worked in the end, but fans were unhappy.

 

[Admiral Bear]

Beyond took half what Into Darkness took at the UK box office. Did appallingly at the US box office.

Apart from CBS Action which only transmits in God awful quality SD, Trek hasn't been on UK terrestrial TV since CH4 made a pig's ear of showing Enterprise over 12 years ago.

Most Star Trek fans are in their late 30s, early 40s, or even older. Most of them have other things to think about.

I maybe making an incorrect assumption here, but I saw quite a few photos from Mission New York at the weekend which showed large empty spaces of venue with not many people. I know this event was only a few weeks after Vegas.

For those of us in the UK, we have one supposedly official and massively over priced convention run by a known scammer, with a guest lineup so poor, it's got many fans foaming at the mouth. And the Star Trek Exhibition was put all the way up in Blackpool. Yup, really accessible for the rest of the country.

There isn't the demand for Trek anymore. People don't care. CBS don't care. Trek is dead. If Discovery gets cancelled at the end of the first season before no one's paying to watch, we'll all have seen it coming.

 

[wayoung]

Beyond took half what Into Darkness took at the UK box office. Did appallingly at the US box office.

Apart from CBS Action which only transmits in God awful quality SD, Trek hasn't been on UK terrestrial TV since CH4 made a pig's ear of showing Enterprise over 12 years ago.

Most Star Trek fans are in their late 30s, early 40s, or even older. Most of them have other things to think about.

I maybe making an incorrect assumption here, but I saw quite a few photos from Mission New York at the weekend which showed large empty spaces of venue with not many people. I know this event was only a few weeks after Vegas.

For those of us in the UK, we have one supposedly official and massively over priced convention run by a known scammer, with a guest lineup so poor, it's got many fans foaming at the mouth. And the Star Trek Exhibition was put all the way up in Blackpool. Yup, really accessible for the rest of the country.

There isn't the demand for Trek anymore. People don't care. CBS don't care. Trek is dead. If Discovery gets cancelled at the end of the first season before no one's paying to watch, we'll all have seen it coming.

That's too bad, in Canada Trek has a huge presence for its 50th. Our mint made coins and stamps that are bei g heavily advertised. The air and space museum had a "Starfleet Academy" interactive exhibit all summer. Even the small local Con near me in its second year got 6 TOS and one FC/VOY actor to appear for their own little 50th panel. The three big cons I went to had photo ops in both the TOS bridge/transporter room for free at all of them, plus numerous Trek actors, 50th panels and script readings, a Discovery booth (that was just a pic from the trailers revealed price by piece if you took a selfie with it), the mint displaying their coins and stamps, full booths for the 50th Anniversary merchandise, exclusive 50th merchandise for each con (I got a metal TOS 50th lunch box for free with one ticket), it's on the news - it's everywhere. Of course Trek has big Canadian connections.

The only thing I found missing was a real anniversary special, and mentioning of it in Beyond advertising.

 

[-Brett-]

But, but, but...I thought JJ Abrams "saved" Star Trek didn't he?

Sure, it just didn't stay saved.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Which ones are great? (And... the other one?)

Great, in no particular order: Ascendancy, Panic, Frontiers
Crap: Risk

Special Mention: Talon, which though not in the Trek universe, was clearly inspired by Starfleet Battles and Federation Commander, and is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING (as in, if you liked Starfleet Battles, you will prefer this)

 

[diankra]

I don't remember the Beeb doing much for DW's 40th Anniversary, when the show was off the air, sure we knew it was coming offit's long hiatus or uncancelled depending on how generous you are feeling. Did we get much for ST 40th Anniversary? Nothing really springs to mind but I could simply have forgotten. We got two speical episodes for the 30th (when ST was in production), a film for the 25th with a new show on the way for the 25th.

I was simply being pragmatic with my comment.

And if you look back, Who fans were not happy going into 2013. One season spread over two years? No vintage Doctors? It worked in the end, but fans were unhappy.

 

[FrankT]

Yeah, you've got a point. But hey - at least they didn't make a useless TV special that ruined the backstory! Unlike that other one I can mention!

 

[Red Shirt]

Happy 50th Star Trek anniversary to all.

 

[MacLeod]

Beyond took half what Into Darkness took at the UK box office. Did appallingly at the US box office.

Apart from CBS Action which only transmits in God awful quality SD, Trek hasn't been on UK terrestrial TV since CH4 made a pig's ear of showing Enterprise over 12 years ago.

Most Star Trek fans are in their late 30s, early 40s, or even older. Most of them have other things to think about.

I maybe making an incorrect assumption here, but I saw quite a few photos from Mission New York at the weekend which showed large empty spaces of venue with not many people. I know this event was only a few weeks after Vegas.

For those of us in the UK, we have one supposedly official and massively over priced convention run by a known scammer, with a guest lineup so poor, it's got many fans foaming at the mouth. And the Star Trek Exhibition was put all the way up in Blackpool. Yup, really accessible for the rest of the country.

There isn't the demand for Trek anymore. People don't care. CBS don't care. Trek is dead. If Discovery gets cancelled at the end of the first season before no one's paying to watch, we'll all have seen it coming.

Like London is really accessible fo the rest of the country? No matter where you put it in the country it'll be less accessible for some.

 

[2takesfrakes]

It's true that audiences are quick to get jaded. STAR TREK (2009) was met with a lot of enthusiasm, because Berman Trek had run its course. But it really only had to do one thing well to be successful: answer the only question on everyone's minds, "can 'they' do the crew?" And when that so surprised audiences, to see the characters onscreen, they kept going back into the theatre, over and over to see it again. The 'jaded' part comes in when the audiences get used to the idea, so they're like, "sure, you can do the crew ... but what can you do with them?" And ... we see them facing Khan.

Then we see JJ Abrams and everyone, with their hand on The Holy Bible, swearing Holy Oaths that Khan is NOT the bad guy, in this one. Outright lying to audiences about what they're going to get, which is something that would've paid off it the movie was offering something somehow never done before. But ... it's just Khan. The film had its problems, but it wasn't a bad movie, on it's own. It was fine. Still, it needed to be special ... and it wasn't. We just get treated to the same people we kind of already know. Like a Hallow's Eve party, where the only invites are your best friends. Oh! Who could this Dracula be? It's Joey! The guy I invited! And who's this, dolled up as Princess Leia? Why ... it's my invited sister-in-law! Wow! What a surprise! So, yeah ... the momentum was blown, doing it that way. It was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Tonight should have been the night. CBS and/or NBC should be airing *something* tonight for the 50th. :/

Oh, well. "The Man Trap" will be showing in *my* living room, anyway. Cheers, everyone. And here's to another 50 years for Star Trek.