I do enjoy bad things if I'm in the right mood. I may be watching this episode tonight, so thanks!
Just How Bad is S2E15 "Threshold?"
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"Hey, I just existed at every point in the universe."
"Wow. Did it change your perspective on anything?"
"Nope!"
"Wow. Did it change your perspective on anything?"
"Nope!"
The Trek writers demonstrate that they don't understand physics, evolution or energy. Watch the SFDebris review on this episode and then read the wikia page for Taylor and Braga's comments about it.
http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/v832.php
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Threshold_(episode)
http://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/v832.php
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Threshold_(episode)
I don't think it's deserving of it's "worst episode ever" rep, so long as you don't expect anything remotely realistic about it and aren't offended by terrible "science" (but IMO Trek has never been realistic ever, it's a comic book fantasy world) and a huge plot hole left dangling at the end
Yes it's bad, but IMO it's not that bad. It's what happens when you do a load of drugs while staring at the warp speed chart in the Star Trek Encyclopedia.
Why not keep it just below warp 10 and get home in a few days at warp 9.999999999?
Yes it's bad, but IMO it's not that bad. It's what happens when you do a load of drugs while staring at the warp speed chart in the Star Trek Encyclopedia.
The episode would have been better with a laugh track.
If I were to rewatch Voyager, this would be one of several skipped episodes from the 1st two seasons.
Yup but not so much the mating part, which is odd, but the EVOLVING part. no fricking way. And I'm with Mcneil on this one...child abandonment. it bugged me it was a unilateral decision. No call from the parents. Mulgrew can erase it all she wants but Janeway might have considered a terrarium in Cargo Bay 2.
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Season 2 of Voyager was the worst of any and all Treks, until Enterprise came along.
Put me straight here please... I'd never heard of any Warp 10 barrier until this episode. You could say it was implied by the Ent-D getting closer and closer to w10 without ever getting to it... But it's treated as having been stated onscreen long before the Voyager episode. Was it?
Put me straight here please... I'd never heard of any Warp 10 barrier until this episode. You could say it was implied by the Ent-D getting closer and closer to w10 without ever getting to it... But it's treated as having been stated onscreen long before the Voyager episode. Was it?
Beloved Tech geeks help me out. How is it their ships go warp 9.975 and it takes months to get a few sectors behind them but a little more warp power and they could have seen all the galaxy simultaneously resulting with lizard mutation? The Borg didn't aim for warp 10. They just made transwarp and did hubs to get around. I find myself sitting here pondering the origins of Transwarp. Did Borg learn from the lizard mistake or just never thought of it? I'd laugh if Seven had some retort about having a way to compensate for lizard mutations.
Don't even try to make sense of it. Warp 10, according to this episode (but not many others) is infinite speed with infinite energy required to get anywhere, and infinitely faster that warp 9.975.
The silly warp 9-point-decimal places thing was because Roddenberry or someone decided near the start of TNG that warp 10 should be infinity instead of just one warp factor above 9, which it had been until then.
Borg transwarp and Voth transwarp and the Excelsior's attempted transwarp were different. They are all just meant to be "faster than warp" but not the silly "infinite speed everywhere at once then you become a salamander with a strong urge to bang your boss" thing.
The silly warp 9-point-decimal places thing was because Roddenberry or someone decided near the start of TNG that warp 10 should be infinity instead of just one warp factor above 9, which it had been until then.
Borg transwarp and Voth transwarp and the Excelsior's attempted transwarp were different. They are all just meant to be "faster than warp" but not the silly "infinite speed everywhere at once then you become a salamander with a strong urge to bang your boss" thing.
The "trans" in transwarp stands for transporter, not transcendent. The Borg and Voth use transporter tech with their warp engines in order to achieve speeds greater than on those on the regular warp scale. It's similar to Scotty's equation for transwarp beaming. Scotty was able to apply it to humans but never to a ship.
Also, recall the ENT-D went warp 10 and beyond in "Where No One Has Gone Before" and there was no "evolution" or after effects.
You really should read the background information about this episode. Jeri Taylor and Brannon Braga's comments are gold, in how this episode so thoroughly botched physics and evolution.
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Threshold_(episode)
Thank you. I will
And have they explained on any of the series why the Federation doesn't use transwarp? My TNG knowledge is novice borderline intermediate at this time.
The reasons are transwarp is currently beyond scope of the Feddies, Rommies, Klingons and Dominion. They know of it, but can't produce the tech for their ships. In VOY "Dark Frontier" the crew steal a transwarp coil from a borg ship and are able to travel 20,000 light years (15 years of their less than 70 year journey) in roughly 2 days. But the crew of VOY could neither build one or replicate one despite having the specs.Thank you. I will
The allergic to water crap really got me!!! How can someone who's made in large part of water become allergic to it without dying instantly!!!
^ always took that as a little joke. He became allergic to the one ingredient even Neelix couldn't use in a taste-offending way 
^ always took that as a little joke. He became allergic to the one ingredient even Neelix couldn't use in a taste-offending way
It's either a joke or sheer ignorance on the part of the writers.
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