HUGE Mr Sulu Spoiler

[borgboy]

Even though he was the only one to reproduce?

Ah, Guy, you know better than that. Fatherhood is no proof of heterosexuality.
For what it's worth I always liked David. I like that he was his own person and not just a Kirk clone. That he wasn't a traditional macho man idealistic traditional son that an alpha male like Kirk would've been expected to spawn.
The novelizations had him having a relationship with Saavik which was interesting, and funny enough for this topic the actor was gay. While he never came out publicly it's well known he was gay and his Square Pegs co star Sarah Jessica Parker casually outed him in an interview years ago, as I don't believe she was unaware he wasn't out in the media.

 

[Zonker]

... but actually having Sulu acknowledge/mention/worry about his husband in dialogue with his shipmates when facing a likely death, would've made the revelation better. I can't even remember the other Mr Sulu being given a name.

If I'm remembering right, something like this was in the script it just either didn't get filmed or didn't make the final cut.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Savvik is at least three times stronger and 5 times faster than David if he was at peek human condition for his height/weight... Which he was likely not because David Marcus was a Nerd.

She decided it was a bad idea to save the two of them, which is why David died and she lived on to be replaced by Kim Cattrall (in spirit).

 

[Sector 7]

Yeah. Brothers always rest their hands on each other's asses as they walk along the street.

Seriously, gay people spend most of their lives doing the exact same things as straight people. Hell, some gay people (for their own individual reasons) 'act' like straight people in every possible way, 100% of the time. You'd never know unless they told you.

I find this argument particularly interesting, because I seem to recall people bitching that Spock and Uhura were acting like idiotic teenagers for having:
- 1 argument
-1 kiss
...in front of so much as one person (Kirk, their boss.)

Actually most of us are "straight-acting". It's just that the "out & loud" ones get public attention.

 

[JeffinOakland]

Sexuality (and how it is publicly presented) is MUCH more fluid for MANY people than is commonly understood.

 

[Sector 7]

That was Chekov. At least it looked that way to me.

It was definitely Chekov. I this movie, he is the womanizer and Kirk is older and wiser...so to speak.

You could tell Kirk was a bit envious of Sulu having a family.

I noticed this, as well. At that point, Kirk is wistful of what might have been.

 

[Trekkin]

Actually most of us are "straight-acting". It's just that the "out & loud" ones get public attention.

I know. Hence this:

Seriously, gay people spend most of their lives doing the exact same things as straight people.

This was referring to a very specific type of 'act' and situation, and (using the most extreme example) why you can't use actual 'acts' as any sort of...sexuality barometer:

Hell, some gay people (for their own individual reasons) 'act' like straight people in every possible way, 100% of the time

Although, you're probably right about that situation still being reasonably common.

I'm not jumping down your throat or any thing, I just realised my original post wasn't the clearest I've ever written.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I'm not jumping down your throat or any thing, I just realised my original post wasn't the clearest I've ever written.

How short are you?

 

[Trekkin]

My ancestors came over from Lilliput.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

I don't think Sulu was gay only because Takei is. They wanted to make one of the main characters gay and Sulu had the least developed romantic history. That Takei is also gay just worked out.

I did read an interview with Takei (on BBC News) where it states that Sulu's orientation was added as a homage to Takei's "legacy and LGBT activism" which, to me at least, would seem to indicate that his own sexuality was a factor. When the actor they're trying to honour with such a move tries to get it changed, then it does show that they're making an unfortunate move.

How the same-sex couple was established in Beyond was worth applauding (though what married couple doesn't kiss when the meet up after time apart, what wasn't that shown?), and should be how such things are handled--sometimes men love men and women love women, let's move on with more important parts of the story.

 

[Tenacity]

They wanted to make one of the main characters gay and Sulu had the least developed romantic history.

In the Abrams universe Scotty, Sulu and Chekov all equally lack established sexuality and romantic histories.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Good. Then they're all gay too.

 

[Dilandu]

Hey, hey, Scotty is married to "Enterprise" (and she is lady)!

 

[Guy Gardener]

Hey, hey, Scotty is married to "Enterprise" (and she is lady)!

Considering she's also married to Kirk, she ain't no lady.

 

[Dilandu]

Considering she's also married to Kirk, she ain't no lady.

Please. Kirk is her knight: her husband is Scotty.

 

[Guy Gardener]

They're both assholes.

As soon as she died, they mounted her daughter.