Both figures are AU dollars; it's an Australian site.
Does anyone know how Beyond is tracking for its opening weekend?
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Both figures are AU dollars; it's an Australian site.
It's that low because it's just started it's cinematic run.
It'll go up the list with each passing week as it makes more moeny until it leaves the cinemas.
There were several reports that the budget for Beyond had been cut back from ID by $20 million or more. Filming in Dubai was part of the cost-cutting measures.
I was quite surprised to see it reported as $185 million - until recently, it was reported as quite a bit lower. I wonder if it blew out a bit.
I thought the budget for STB was going to be cut.
Officially, it was't much less than STiD's budget.
Either Paramount knows what they're doing and are 'budgeting' the movies as high as they can to minimise profits and thus, tax or someone there can't stop spending.
Hard to say. I was thinking it'll be $165m after tax rebates etc.
If it is $185m, then the earlier reports of the budget being above $200m could be correct. $185m is the figure after tax rebates.
So what were they thinking? Did that include the cost of pre-production of the cancelled script?
In any case, the movie will make money.
$185m doesn't include the $75m Paramount got for product tie in from Hewlett Packard and others; nor however much Alibaba and Hua Hua Media each coughed up for their stake.
In another thread, I said that even if these two contributed say $30m in total; then Paramount only has to recoup an actual outlay of about $80m.
Yes, I remember when it was reported that STB's budget was getting cut, but I think Paramount eventually decided to spend more money on it.
If STB underperforms, which looks likely, I can't imagine that they'd spend another 180M+ on the next movie. Honestly, that might be a good thing.
That 185M doesn't include the 100M+ they spent to market the film.
Alibaba & Hua Hua also cut into Paramount's potential profits.
So at the end of this year, Paramount won't quite get out of their financial woes.
I don't know anything about movie 'money' but it certainly doesn't make any sense when I look at it from a 'real' world perspective.
$170m tops would have been a good budget.
Even less might be better.
It's not so much that a small budget = less action = boring.
A moving story of The Inner Light or City of the Edge of Forever type would have been a fitting nod; plus the requisite amount of action is a B story arc would ne acceptable.
Again, STB was fine. I am happy to say they did a great job due such limited time.
Nope. Even I can write a simple ad script . . . in this 50th anniversary year, join the crew of the Enterprise as they journey into an uncharted nebula and come face to face with a new danger.
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Yes, give and take all around.
Dollar for you, two dollar for me.
Leading back to the main point, why spend some much money?
I think they look at it as a long term investment in the franchise. They want to build the franchise up; turn it into a global brand, then cash in from all the sequels, merch, licensing, cross promotions that follows.
Problem is, no matter what they do, it seems Star Trek has limited upside. They probably could have the cut the budget in half for Beyond and it would still end up bringing in the same amount of revenue.
Many will disagree, but I want a small story that focuses on characters and dialog, with way less action. It would cost less, and most of the Star Trek people would still come out to see it.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! HP did NOT pay Paramount $75 million dollars to help make Star Trek Beyond. Are you confusing Deadline's report of HP and numerous other companies providing "promotional support" for STB? Read that as free advertising from various companies (Like painting a plane and letting the cast use it for premieres or using their commercials and product placements to promote the upcoming Star Trek movie). They did not provide $75m to bankroll the film. Hell, you could buy 15-20 minutes of Super Bowl ads for that and reach 20 times the people.
Maybe Paramount relied TOO MUCH on all these crappy product tie ins and that's why the marketing seemed underwhelming compared to the previous outings. Marketing a tentpole movie like STB can easily run a studio $60-100 million domestically and then another $60 million or so overseas. Perhaps that's where they decided to get creative and cut costs.
I am all for a more intimate story but that doesn't mean it'll be boring.
For all the action in Nemesis, I was so disappointed.
It's a juggling act but an intimate A story plus a fire cracker of a B story could work.
In any case, I think STB has restored the faith of many fans and hopefully, this will translate to good DVD sales and an improved turn out for ST14.
For all the action in Nemesis, I was so disappointed.
It's a juggling act but an intimate A story plus a fire cracker of a B story could work.
In any case, I think STB has restored the faith of many fans and hopefully, this will translate to good DVD sales and an improved turn out for ST14.
Thanks for the clarification.
I guess there is 'real' money, 'movie' money and 'services in lieu of' money.
At the end of the day, it takes hundreds of people to make a movie and I doubt even the director or producer has absolute control over just how much the studio wants to budget.
They'll get all the money they need to make the movie but they have little control over what other expenses get piled into the official budget figure.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=startrek.htm
Yeah, I think it will do better than break even domestically, and the international box office will be where the profit is made.
And really, the production budget, prints, advertising, etc, are all part of the overall budget. So while the Paramounts deals might not go to the "production" budget, anything reducing the overall budget is still a savings. So if STB really did get that much in free promotion from their corporate sponsors . . . . they must have saved some money on their overall costs. Which means the movie has to recoup less before it becomes profitable.
But Suicide Squad is a big threat
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