Spoilers Supergirl - Season 1

[Allyn Gibson]

And how about a parallel universe Lucy Lane as Superwoman? There doesn't appear to be a Justice League in the Supergirl universe, so she doesn't have to be a member of the Crime Syndicate.

Pre-Flashpoint, Lucy Lane was Superwoman. Sam Lane had somehow developed a super suit that mimicked the powers of a Kryptonian, and Lucy used the powers it gave her to fight Supergirl. However, Supergirl accidentally destroyed the containment field that made the suit function in the battle, and the energy release killed Lucy.

When Sam Lane and Maxwell Lord were together with the power source at the end of the season finale, I was thinking, "Ah, so are they going to develop the Superwoman suit?"

 

[Christopher]

James, Winn and marked for death girl jumped out of something in the Myriad episode (quite easily and on every side of the building). It doesn't really seem like the typical skyscraper (in which things such as balconies would also be very well shutoff to prevent people from falling/jumping.

They were on the balconies. Balconies have been an established part of the CatCo building all along. There's Cat's private balcony where she and Supergirl have had many heart-to-hearts, and there's what Tor.com's reviewer calls the CatCo Balcony of Feelings, where the employees have had their various intimate conversations, including Winn telling Kara about his father the Toyman and Lucy breaking up with James.

And yes, maybe it's an unrealistic architectural feature, but it's to accommodate having a lead character who flies -- which is itself unrealistic.

 

[dahj]

How in hell do you rip her in two when she can just decide to be two feet taller/longer?

He used his special Martian decompiling skills.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

They did have the AI to tell them anything they needed to know.

...which still did not make Alex the most qualified to use the pod; an organization like the DEO has teams to analyze and use alien vehicles--Alex is no expert in that field, and was another example of Alex forced into situations beyond her abilities.

 

[Guy Gardener]

There should have been an episode where they took it for a joyride around the moon and back.

Why isn't that tech being/been reverse engineered?

 

[dahj]

...which still did not make Alex the most qualified to use the pod; an organization like the DEO has teams to analyze and use alien vehicles--Alex is no expert in that field

You're on a Star Trek board.
A show where a thousand experts worked on a starship, yet the same seven people always solved every problem.

People in the credits get to do stuff, it's the way of TV.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

You're on a Star Trek board.
A show where a thousand experts worked on a starship, yet the same seven people always solved every problem.

People in the credits get to do stuff, it's the way of TV.

My favorite is when Picard, Crusher and Worf were assigned to a special forces commando mission.

 

[The Old Mixer]

See also Super Starbuck.

 

[Christopher]

...which still did not make Alex the most qualified to use the pod; an organization like the DEO has teams to analyze and use alien vehicles--Alex is no expert in that field, and was another example of Alex forced into situations beyond her abilities.

She's the second-in-command of the DEO, and was its interim commander for a time. She's been shown throughout the season as the organization's most badass and gifted operative. She's also a scientist in her own right. Where do you get "beyond her abilities?"

 

[Gryffindorian]

The tricky thing there is that Malina Weissman (young Kara) has been cast as Violet, the lead character in Netflix's upcoming A Series of Unfortunate Events TV series. Then again, the first season is already shooting and is only eight episodes, so Weissman might be free to be a regular or semi-regular in season 2 of Supergirl, but it's hard to say for sure.

Would it be a huge jump to cast a different actress? They did it with Sara Lance on Arrow. But for consistency, it would be wiser to stick to young Ms. Weissman; they could work around her schedule.

 

[Christopher]

Would it be a huge jump to cast a different actress? They did it with Sara Lance on Arrow. But for consistency, it would be wiser to stick to young Ms. Weissman; they could work around her schedule.

It just seems to me that the impetus behind that kind of story decision would be to promote a recurring actress the producers liked to a more heavily featured role. It'd be kind of a convoluted thing to do if it weren't being done on the actress's behalf. And we know these producers like to promote recurring actors they like to regular roles -- remember, Felicity was a recurring guest in season 1 of Arrow. And I'm still convinced that the whole reason Legends of Tomorrow exists is because the producers wanted an excuse to give starring roles to several recurring actors that they and the audience were fond of.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

She's the second-in-command of the DEO, and was its interim commander for a time. She's been shown throughout the season as the organization's most badass and gifted operative. She's also a scientist in her own right. Where do you get "beyond her abilities?"

In any organization--particularly any as a branch of government--specialties are the norm--not the mythical jack of all trades as seen with Alex. Analyzing alien vehicles would not be some free-for-all, "anyone can jump in, " especially for one who has been consistently presented as a field agent. As in the CIA or FBI, investigators are not commonly handling forensics (a specialty), and forensics are not commonly handling legal, etc. Further, as noted by many about the season finale, Alex is far out of her league in tagging along with MM, when she--as a mere human--would be instantly susceptible to the effects of Myriad. We see how fast she was turned into a pawn / liability, so other than a false dilemma, what sense did it make for her to force herself along with MM? None.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

You're on a Star Trek board.
A show where a thousand experts worked on a starship, yet the same seven people always solved every problem.

People in the credits get to do stuff, it's the way of TV.

Its not that simple--and its the way to make the audience call it bullshit. For example, in TOS, you did not have Kirk attempting to treat medical problems every week, as it was not his specialty, and if attempted, would have robbed the drama of any believability.

 

[DigificWriter]

In any organization--particularly any as a branch of government--specialties are the norm--not the mythical jack of all trades as seen with Alex. Analyzing alien vehicles would not be some free-for-all, "anyone can jump in, " especially for one who has been consistently presented as a field agent. As in the CIA or FBI, investigators are not commonly handling forensics (a specialty), and forensics are not commonly handling legal, etc. Further, as noted by many about the season finale, Alex is far out of her league in tagging along with MM, when she--as a mere human--would be instantly susceptible to the effects of Myriad. We see how fast she was turned into a pawn / liability, so other than a false dilemma, what sense did it make for her to force herself along with MM? None.

It's never been established that the DEO is divided into specialty classifications, so it seems to me like you're complaining just because you don't have anything better to do.

As far as Alex accompanying J'onn back to National City goes, whether or not she was susceptible to Myriad was irrelevant; protestations to the contrary aside, Kara needed help, and nothing short of death was going to stop her from providing that help. It's not stubbornness that led Alex to insist on going with J'onn, but loyalty and unconditional love (the kind that motivates a family member to brave an inferno to rescue another family member).

 

[Grendelsbayne]

They were on the balconies. Balconies have been an established part of the CatCo building all along. There's Cat's private balcony where she and Supergirl have had many heart-to-hearts, and there's what Tor.com's reviewer calls the CatCo Balcony of Feelings, where the employees have had their various intimate conversations, including Winn telling Kara about his father the Toyman and Lucy breaking up with James.

And yes, maybe it's an unrealistic architectural feature, but it's to accommodate having a lead character who flies -- which is itself unrealistic.

That's exactly my point. You can't judge the skyscraper on realistic standards because it isn't designed to be a realistic skyscraper. It's designed to be convenient for a main character who needs to fly off and save the day. So there's absolutely no reason that there couldn't be windows in the building somewhere that did open.

It's never been established that the DEO is divided into specialty classifications, so it seems to me like you're complaining just because you don't have anything better to do.

As far as Alex accompanying J'onn back to National City goes, whether or not she was susceptible to Myriad was irrelevant; protestations to the contrary aside, Kara needed help, and nothing short of death was going to stop her from providing that help. It's not stubbornness that led Alex to insist on going with J'onn, but loyalty and unconditional love (the kind that motivates a family member to brave an inferno to rescue another family member).

Sure, that's what motivates her. But motivation without intelligence is useless. She was a clear liability on that mission, not just to J'onn, but as we almost immediately found out, even moreso to Kara. Because of her thoughtless decision, Kara was almost forced to kill her own sister (and do you think there would've been any message of hope forthcoming after that?). And as a supposedly intelligent, capable field agent, she should have the sense to understand that. If she absolutely had to help somehow, she should've put her efforts into finding a way to help from outside the Myriad perimeter.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

It's never been established that the DEO is divided into specialty classifications, so it seems to me like you're complaining just because you don't have anything better to do.

Your flaming does not mask your true hyper-defensive behavior--the fact you are trying to justify senseless plotting to elevate a poorly designed character.

As far as Alex accompanying J'onn back to National City goes, whether or not she was susceptible to Myriad was irrelevant; protestations to the contrary aside, Kara needed help, and nothing short of death was going to stop her from providing that help.

Illogical; Alex is only a human, was warned about the danger, thus she was as susceptible to the effect of Myriad as anyone else. As a result of her tagging along to a situation out of her league, MM had to use his own power to try to protect someone who--again--should not have been there. Try as you will, her easy capture/control is all the argument one needs for Alex needing to stay away from the conflict.

Her emotional motivations mean nothing, when the end result was her being easily captured/manipulated.

Sure, that's what motivates her. But motivation without intelligence is useless. She was a clear liability on that mission, not just to J'onn, but as we almost immediately found out, even moreso to Kara. Because of her thoughtless decision, Kara was almost forced to kill her own sister (and do you think there would've been any message of hope forthcoming after that?).

On point.

And as a supposedly intelligent, capable field agent, she should have the sense to understand that. If she absolutely had to help somehow, she should've put her efforts into finding a way to help from outside the Myriad perimeter.

As you point out, her decision was thoughtless.

 

[dahj]

Illogical; Alex is only a human, was warned about the danger, thus she was as susceptible to the effect of Myriad as anyone else.

Oh, knock it off already.
Good guys charge into dangerous situations, it's what they do.
It's like trope no.1 of heroic fiction for Pete's sake...

 

[Guy Gardener]

No, he's right.

She jumped into a meat grinder for no good reason.

If John could look after her effortlessly, that'd be one thing, but J'onn was so crippled from looking after Alex, that he couldn't look after Alex, or himself.

 

[DigificWriter]

What Alex chose to do is no different than a mother rushing back into a burning house to rescue a child, even if doing so puts her own health in jeopardy and risks both she and the child dying should she become hurt or incapacitated.

No, it's not rational, but it doesn't need to be.

 

[Guy Gardener]

You did say "burning house", but you should say "exploding volcano", if Myriad didn't turn out to be a lemon. If Myriad was any good, you couldn't emotionally appeal people out of being mind controlled.