The Avengers were originally rated R for pointy bits sticking out of Coulson.
But by all means, keep blowing this out of proportion...
‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’
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The Avengers were originally rated R for pointy bits sticking out of Coulson.
But by all means, keep blowing this out of proportion...
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Zach Snyder doesn't make movies with all ages in mind.
Besides Avengers and Superman are very different (or were). Half of what Tony Stark says and thinks should be enough for an R rating . That whole symbol of hope shouldn't even come close to that line, let alone be capable of crossing it.
I just remember the magic of seeing these movies as a child that still resonates today. When things push the boundaries this far, it's tougher to justify the same happening with the current generation of youngsters.
Zach Snyder doesn't make movies with all ages in mind.
Besides Avengers and Superman are very different (or were). Half of what Tony Stark says and thinks should be enough for an R rating . That whole symbol of hope shouldn't even come close to that line, let alone be capable of crossing it.
I just remember the magic of seeing these movies as a child that still resonates today. When things push the boundaries this far, it's tougher to justify the same happening with the current generation of youngsters.
They probably won't cut away when Batman says "Aw Sh......." when Doomsday fires his laser mouth in his director.
I'm fine with an R rated version. Its not 1978 anymore, superhero movies don't need to be kids movies (although I'm fine with PG-13 too, 99% of superhero movies are more fit for that rating in my opinion). I think it would be stupid to have the theatrical rating for a batman or Superman movie be R, but as a home media thing it works. I'm sure the Theatrical version with its PG-13 rating will be easy to get for those who want it, so there is no reason not to do both.
The original cut of Batman v. Superman was rated R back in September, long before anyone had a clue that Deadpool was going to make a zillion dollars.
Really??? I can't imagine Warner Bros. would allow those characters to be in a movie with that kind of tone. Those characters are like Star Wars characters, they're geared for kids or for all ages. I would be appalled if what you're saying is true. Just shows Snyder has his head way up his own ass for him to think he would get away with that, no matter what Deadpool earned. That shit ain't right, I don't care if Deadpool makes a billion; I and a lot people will not tolerate an R rated Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman film.
The Dark Knight had to be trimmed to avoid an R rating too, you know.
I think the animated Wonder Woman also came pretty close to an R rating at one point. It had some pretty bloody action scenes.
Batman's had quite a few stories that have gone very dark. If you were to do a panel by panel direct adaptation of The Killing Joke you'd probably end up with an R rated movie. Hell, it shows Gordon's bare ass and one of Barbara's breasts and her ass are visible in the pictures Joker took of her, so that would be enough to get a movie an R rating.
Arkham Knight also had an M rating, which is the video game equivalent of an R rating in the US.
Batman's had quite a few stories that have gone very dark. If you were to do a panel by panel direct adaptation of The Killing Joke you'd probably end up with an R rated movie. Hell, it shows Gordon's bare ass and one of Barbara's breasts and her ass are visible in the pictures Joker took of her, so that would be enough to get a movie an R rating.
Arkham Knight also had an M rating, which is the video game equivalent of an R rating in the US.
People throwing a hissy fit over this need to realize two things:
1) This was always going to be a PG13 film. That hasn't changed.
2) The extended version being rated R does not mean it's now a "Violent Version" where Batman beats crooks into a pulp, Superman burns people alive and Wonder Woman just decapitates everybody.
For all you know, the rating bump could be because of just a tiny bit more blood in a slightly extended Wayne shooting flashback scene and the other 20 minutes might be additional scenes of sunshine and roses and people high-fiving each other.
I'm really wishing this movie gets released already, all this panicking and outrage over the most insignificant things surrounding this production is getting tiresome...
1) This was always going to be a PG13 film. That hasn't changed.
2) The extended version being rated R does not mean it's now a "Violent Version" where Batman beats crooks into a pulp, Superman burns people alive and Wonder Woman just decapitates everybody.
For all you know, the rating bump could be because of just a tiny bit more blood in a slightly extended Wayne shooting flashback scene and the other 20 minutes might be additional scenes of sunshine and roses and people high-fiving each other.
I'm really wishing this movie gets released already, all this panicking and outrage over the most insignificant things surrounding this production is getting tiresome...
I don't know if it's still the case, but I read a few years ago that just showing people being kicked in the head could be enough for an R rating. So there's a chance that it could just be a few more hits in some of the fight scenes. He could hit a guy twice in the PG-13 version, and then he hit him five times and smashes his head through a wall in the R version.
Let's remember that in the American film rating system, the only major difference between PG-13 and R is a couple of f-bombs. An R rating allows for more brutal violence, but the level of violence that PG-13 allows for can be pretty brutal as it is. All three Taken films were rated PG-13, for example.
I took my kids to see AoU and the recent FF and they were not scarred by either. I do know that my son would be traumatized by the mere fact that Batman and Superman are fighting so I'm not taking them to see this and I haven't let him watch MoS either. The tone is just too different from most Marvel movies.
That's not a moral judgment, just a personal one. Many DC comics over the past few years have been incredibly violent. That's fine and I enjoy them. But my son has a stash of digital versions of sixties and seventies comics that he is enjoying just fine. Both my kids love the Christopher Reeves Superman and the FF from ten years ago. Just because something new exists doesn't mean that the old versions don't.
That's not a moral judgment, just a personal one. Many DC comics over the past few years have been incredibly violent. That's fine and I enjoy them. But my son has a stash of digital versions of sixties and seventies comics that he is enjoying just fine. Both my kids love the Christopher Reeves Superman and the FF from ten years ago. Just because something new exists doesn't mean that the old versions don't.
"The Wolverine" had an "unrated version", which was essentially R. There was more blood, but it was still pretty tame.
It's my fault for getting him into comics, and now my daughter as well. They're twins.
My wife and I screen most movies beforehand, or we read enough. We don't mind moderate cursing because my kids have heard those words before (AoU or Ant Man) or comic book style violence. My problem with MoS is that I know my son would have been traumatized by the buildings falling over and by Superman having to kill someone at the end. In a few years it will be okay. I also knew that Iron Man 3 would be just boring for them. On television we watch The Flash and Supergirl but we don't watch Arrow because some scenes are just a little too intense. I love that my daughter has a female hero to see in the SG series. She's told all her friends about it. On Flash, my son hates the romantic scenes and my daughter loves them. I think that's pretty amusing.
The past few years have been amazing in how much I can share my love of these characters with my kids.
I doubt WB would release the film with an R rating regardless of how successful Deadpool is.
Turtletrekker said:
And more fucks.
Well, that's no way for him to treat his director! I think someone's not getting hired back for the next film...
