The Librarians season 2 starts tomorrow.
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Well, I was wrong. They didn't show both parts of the finale tonight, just episode 9. The finale's next week. And unfortunately, it was a very Flynn-centric episode. And they already kinda did this reality-changing thing last season, with each of the Librarians in their own alternate reality.
And they really shouldn't have called the island Cicely. I kept thinking they were talking about Sicily, which is also an island and is much larger and much less Pacific-Northwest than the one they were talking about.
Weird non-appearance by Prospero here. The actor was credited, but all we got was two shots of him, one from behind and one briefly of his face with animated spell energies obscuring his mouth -- like they couldn't actually get him to appear, so they just dropped in a clip of him and hid the lack of lip sync with his voice recorded later.
And they really shouldn't have called the island Cicely. I kept thinking they were talking about Sicily, which is also an island and is much larger and much less Pacific-Northwest than the one they were talking about.
Weird non-appearance by Prospero here. The actor was credited, but all we got was two shots of him, one from behind and one briefly of his face with animated spell energies obscuring his mouth -- like they couldn't actually get him to appear, so they just dropped in a clip of him and hid the lack of lip sync with his voice recorded later.
The Prospero thing was odd, I agree.
The Cicely name, I believe, was a reference to Northern Exposure and their setting of Cicely, Alaska; one of many such allusions to other shows and tropes in this episode.
*The FBI agent assigned to a small town (for...reasons?): Haven, Twin Peaks, Battle Creek, Sleepy Hollow.
*The small town with a disproportionate level of crime/criminals: Picket Fences, Sleepy Hollow.
*The federal Marshall/soldier/agent or detective that becomes Chief-of-Police/Sheriff of an unusual small town: Eureka, Once Upon a Time, Haven.
*"Those strange files at the FBI...": the X-Files, Fringe.
*The professor/adventurer: Indiana Jones, Stargate.
*The art thief turned art crime-fighter: White Collar, Leverage.
*Former astronaut living in a small town: Northern Exposure.
I'm sure I'm missing a few, but the writers did a nice job poking fun at the numerous "small town" genre shows from over the years.
I certainly thought it was a reference to Northern Exposure.
Well, the in-show Sleepy Hollow is a bigger city than its real-world equivalent of Tarrytown, to make it a more suitable setting for the premise. And in Twin Peaks, Cooper was initially there to solve a murder, though I don't remember why he stayed after it was solved.
Hmm... That scene in the room of time machines had kind of a familiar ring to it...
Nice to see them sticking to a self-consistent timeline model, more or less -- every change to history cancels itself out by preventing the time travel that caused it. It's a nice way to avoid the tired old "How do we change history back to normal" plot.
The bit about Moriarty having a more authentic English accent doesn't really work, because the London accent in Elizabethan times was radically unlike the modern or Victorian London accent -- more like sort of a cross between Irish and the stereotypical pirate accent. (I've heard reconstructions of it, and a lot of Shakespeare's rhymes make more sense in that accent.)
I guessed that Prospero was really Shakespeare as soon as Moriarty realized the forest wasn't part of Prospero's story. But I couldn't figure out how to reconcile that with what had been established about him being a Fictional earlier in the season. But it turns out he was both a Fictional and Shakespeare at the same time.
Flynn fangasming about meeting Shakespeare was the first time I've ever felt any sympathy or identification with him. But then he had to go and audition, and yup, I hated him again.
I know this show's writers are big Doctor Who fans, but how did they manage to work in a reference to "time travel the long way round" just a few weeks after "Hell Bent" used that line? If they didn't have some advance knowledge of the script, then it's quite a coincidence.
Nice to see them sticking to a self-consistent timeline model, more or less -- every change to history cancels itself out by preventing the time travel that caused it. It's a nice way to avoid the tired old "How do we change history back to normal" plot.
The bit about Moriarty having a more authentic English accent doesn't really work, because the London accent in Elizabethan times was radically unlike the modern or Victorian London accent -- more like sort of a cross between Irish and the stereotypical pirate accent. (I've heard reconstructions of it, and a lot of Shakespeare's rhymes make more sense in that accent.)
I guessed that Prospero was really Shakespeare as soon as Moriarty realized the forest wasn't part of Prospero's story. But I couldn't figure out how to reconcile that with what had been established about him being a Fictional earlier in the season. But it turns out he was both a Fictional and Shakespeare at the same time.
Flynn fangasming about meeting Shakespeare was the first time I've ever felt any sympathy or identification with him. But then he had to go and audition, and yup, I hated him again.
I know this show's writers are big Doctor Who fans, but how did they manage to work in a reference to "time travel the long way round" just a few weeks after "Hell Bent" used that line? If they didn't have some advance knowledge of the script, then it's quite a coincidence.
So Flynn is Arthur and the Round Table is in our current time?
No.
It was a misleading prophecy.
The wielder of Excalibur was describer as the wielder of Excalibur, with the caveat that only people who have already wielded Excalibur can yet come to wield Excalibur from this point forward... The scary hot snake cult girl from last year fought with Excalibur, or just ordered it to fly around and kill under mental instruction using a magic crown?
Was that supposed to be baby Excalibur, or Excalibur from the 21st century brought back in time by the lake Ladies to be given to Flynn when he most needed his friend (the sword)?
It was a misleading prophecy.
The wielder of Excalibur was describer as the wielder of Excalibur, with the caveat that only people who have already wielded Excalibur can yet come to wield Excalibur from this point forward... The scary hot snake cult girl from last year fought with Excalibur, or just ordered it to fly around and kill under mental instruction using a magic crown?
Was that supposed to be baby Excalibur, or Excalibur from the 21st century brought back in time by the lake Ladies to be given to Flynn when he most needed his friend (the sword)?
No, Jenkins (aka Galahad) knew Arthur personally and said he misses him, so Flynn can't be Arthur. From what Jenkins said at the end, it's more that the prophecy said that Excalibur's wielder would return to wield it again at England's time of greatest need, and everyone just assumed that meant Arthur.
By the way, it was weird that they set up the Lady of the Lake earlier in the season as someone who sought to recruit Cassandra, but now featured her interacting with Eve for the payoff. That's kind of disconnected.
I liked the little musical themes to the three revealed time machines, but I couldn't place the first one. There was this silver cylinder, then the Doctor's TARDIS and the DeLorean. Anyone care to enlighten me?
Also used in the monologue at the end of the 2013 episode 'Day of the Doctor' ...
"It's taken me so many years, so many lifetimes, but at last I know where I'm going. Where I've always been going. Home. The long way round."
I can't place the silver cylinder, although we know that TARDISes (at least in the new series) are white or gray cylinders in their "raw" form. Personally, I was looking out for something with a big disk on the back like the George Pal time machine.
Yeah, but it didn't have the same specific meaning there. In that context, it just meant that it would be a long and indirect journey to find his way home. But in both "Heaven Sent"/"Hell Bent" and in this episode, it was specifically used to mean traveling into the future just by living through the intervening time, whether through immortality or some form of suspended animation, as opposed to jumping forward via time travel. That's why it's a surprising convergence or coincidence.
Well, the musical themes are the Doctor Who theme (sort of) in three different styles, but the cylinder doesn't look like a unchameleoned (sp?) TARDIS, there seems to be a yellow panel below a horizontal division line and also some writing (COMB..?).
The classical H.G.Wells time machine was probably behind the big curtain they didn't move.
Oh, and calling it "time travel, the long way around" is quite a bit older. I first heard that phrase sometime last century.
The classical H.G.Wells time machine was probably behind the big curtain they didn't move.
Oh, and calling it "time travel, the long way around" is quite a bit older. I first heard that phrase sometime last century.
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