Rey in The Force Awakens (Possible Spoilers)

[{ Emilia }]

^ That was a little bizarre but okay! Repeating yourself over and over isn't what I'd call "a discussion". An exchange of ideas maybe but a pretty repetitive one then. I was happy to discuss it with you but repeating the same stuff isn't actually promoting a conversation.
My sidenote about the relatively common sexist issue wasn't about you specifically by the way, it was a general point. I apologize if you thought I was targeting you. I didn't mean to make that connection.

To talk about potential issues with the character, though: I like the backstory of her being abandoned on the planet by her family because it has a huge emotional impact on her. I'm just wondering... if she's really Luke's daughter, it's hard for me to come up with a reasonable explanation for him just leaving her there. At least one that actually convinces me.
Dropping them off and letting them live on their own on a hostile world isn't really a smart way to protect somebody. I'd rather take the risk and grow up with my family then.

 

[davejames]

Here's where you jump in and tell me being a scavenger is a good explanation for being an expert in hand to hand combat, an expert in piloting/repairing ancient ships, and expert in force techniques. Still waiting for any valid example of her having flaws that make her a relatable character. She's not vulnerable or nuanced imo so far.

Well as far as I could tell, the only thing she came close to being an "expert" in was flying the Falcon (and that's a skill force users just naturally seem to have anyway, judging by Luke, Anakin and Obi-Wan). It took her a few tries for the mind trick to finally work, and she was on defense for the vast majority of her battle against Kylo.

And of course she appeared frightened and nervous and uncertain nearly all the way through the movie, which certainly went a long way in making her relatable in my book. Since that's exactly how I would be reacting as well if I found myself in the middle of all those crazy events.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Plus, as has been mentioned before, she crashed the Falcon into the ground a few times. Chewie is probably spending all his time on Luke's planet trying to fix all the dents on the falcon's right side.

 

[davejames]

To talk about potential issues with the character, though: I like the backstory of her being abandoned on the planet by her family because it has a huge emotional impact on her. I'm just wondering... if she's really Luke's daughter, it's hard for me to come up with a reasonable explanation for him just leaving her there. At least one that actually convinces me.
Dropping them off and letting them live on their own on a hostile world isn't really a smart way to protect somebody. I'd rather take the risk and grow up with my family then.

Well it could always be that Luke intended her to be left in a nicer place, but something went wrong and the foster family had to abandon her on Jakku for some reason.

And even though Luke might have sensed something was wrong, he still figured she was safer living a scavenger life than being hunted down and killed by the First Order once they learned who she was.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Well it could always be that Luke intended her to be left in a nicer place, but something went wrong and the foster family had to abandon her on Jakku for some reason.

And even though Luke might have sensed something was wrong, he still figured she was safer living a scavenger life than being hunted down and killed by the First Order once they learned who she was.

That's what I meant when I said it'd be hard to come up with an explanation that convinces me. Letting her grow up alone on a dangerous planet seems less safe than letting her grow up in the Republic (space the First Order doesn't control) under the protection of her amazing Jedi father (if he really is her dad).

 

[theenglish]

Well as far as I could tell, the only thing she came close to being an "expert" in was flying the Falcon (and that's a skill force users just naturally seem to have anyway, judging by Luke, Anakin and Obi-Wan).

It was implied that she already had piloting experience when they were running toward the ship that exploded. She just didn't have specific experience with the Falcon's antiquated controls.

To talk about potential issues with the character, though: I like the backstory of her being abandoned on the planet by her family because it has a huge emotional impact on her. I'm just wondering... if she's really Luke's daughter, it's hard for me to come up with a reasonable explanation for him just leaving her there. At least one that actually convinces me.
Dropping them off and letting them live on their own on a hostile world isn't really a smart way to protect somebody. I'd rather take the risk and grow up with my family then.

Well it could always be that Luke intended her to be left in a nicer place, but something went wrong and the foster family had to abandon her on Jakku for some reason.

And even though Luke might have sensed something was wrong, he still figured she was safer living a scavenger life than being hunted down and killed by the First Order once they learned who she was.

If she is Luke's daughter, then she might have been with her mother and Luke might not know that she was ever abandoned. He doesn't even have to know he has a daughter until the moment he meets her.

 

[Trekker4747]

My favorite black-guy in the franchise remains the guy in Cloud City saving the ice-cream maker.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

And yeah I agree the gold bikini thing was lame.

I believe that's spelled lamé.

 

[JD]

In previous “Star Wars” movies*, the Force has been not just a religious concept, but a tool for exploring masculinity.

What's next the lightsabers being a phallic symbol?

The Dark Side clearly represents the evil nature of men, and the light side the caring, nurturing, healing nature of femininity.

I said: The Powers that Be realized that people other than white males would enjoy seeing a main/central character that looked like them.

You said: 'Hey there was a black guy who was awesome'

The proper response should have been "you do know people can enjoy a movie where the main character is of another race, right".

I've never understood the whole thing with guys not being able to relate to female main characters. For a while now, just by coincidence, the majority of books I've been reading have had female leads, and I've never had any trouble relating to any of them. Just because somebody gets her period doesn't suddenly make them some strange creature that a person who doesn't can't sympathize with. The majority of the kinds of issues these stories deal with play out the same way for both issues, so I don't see why the gender of the protagonist should impact how relatable they are for the audience. There are some issues that do differ between the genders, but it's not that hard to think about what it must feel like to have that happen, at least on an intellectual level if not completely on an emotional one.

I thought it was a great decision to cast Boyega and Ridley together. They had great on screen chemistry--and another kind of "break through" that people are not discussing is how cool it was that a man and woman could develop a sense of comradeship and friendship in a movie without sexual tension getting involved. Now, of course, people are making comments that Finn must be gay for that to have happened (which would also be cool) but I thought it was a really refreshing relationship the two characters developed over the course of the film.

Yeah, it was nice to get a male/female relationship that was just a close friendship.

To talk about potential issues with the character, though: I like the backstory of her being abandoned on the planet by her family because it has a huge emotional impact on her. I'm just wondering... if she's really Luke's daughter, it's hard for me to come up with a reasonable explanation for him just leaving her there. At least one that actually convinces me.
Dropping them off and letting them live on their own on a hostile world isn't really a smart way to protect somebody. I'd rather take the risk and grow up with my family then.

Well it could always be that Luke intended her to be left in a nicer place, but something went wrong and the foster family had to abandon her on Jakku for some reason.

And even though Luke might have sensed something was wrong, he still figured she was safer living a scavenger life than being hunted down and killed by the First Order once they learned who she was.

We did someone holding her hand when the ship took off, so it looks like Luke or whoever left her behind didn't leave her completely on her own, at least at first. Perhaps that person died, or something happened that they also had to leave.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Possible confirmation of Rey's parentage? It's all supposed to be canon now.

http://epicstream.com/news/Reys-Ide...r-Wars-The-Force-Awakens-Disney-Infinity-Game

 

[Ithekro]

Didn't Finn ask if Rey was seeing anyone?

 

[EmoBorg]

I think Finn and Rey should remain as friends throughout the show. Not every friendship between a girl and a guy, in the movies, should turn into a romantic relationship. A friendship between the two might be a more interesting thing to explore. Finn helping Rey explore her Jedi abilities. Rey helping Finn get over his First Order past.

 

[Tom]

Spoiler: Rey's Identity?

Face me Cousin! hmm (at the 20:36 mark)

http://ikwiz.com/article.asp?id=19903&name=Rey%27s+Identity+Confirmed+In+Disney+Infinity+3%2E0+%2D+The+Force+Awakens+Playset+Walkthrough%3F

 

[Kor]

^ That line of dialog in the Infinity game is debatable, as has been discussed in other threads. Besides, it would put Star Wars in the same universe as Toy Story and Spider-man.

Kor

 

[JD]

Obviously Disney Infinity isn't canon to Star Wars, but the article posted but Turtletrekker's article did say they had access to material from the movies. So the question is did they get that from some of the background material on Rey, or did they make it up on their own?
EDIT: Both the guy who posted the original video, and LucasFilm story group's Pablo Hidalgo have both explain that he actually say "Face me" and then "curses" after getting hit.

 

[Kor]

My stance is that the particular line of dialog in the game is partially obscured by sound effects and also sounds similar to another word that the character speaks elsewhere, so it may not actually even be saying what people think it seems to be saying. Confused yet?

Kor

 

[David.Blue]

Rey's identity theories I've heard/seen so far...

Spoiler: Rey

She is Han and Leia's daughter (therefore Kylo's sister)
She is Luke's daughter (Kylo's cousin)
She is Obi Wan's granddaughter
She is Anakin Skywalker reborn a la reincarnation
She is a descendant of Palpatine
She is a clone (of TAKE YOUR PICK)
She is Gin Qon's grandaughter/great niece
She is a new Chosen One created by the Force
She is herself, related to no other characters but simply is very very gifted with the Force (essentially muggle born like Hermione Granger).

 

[dahj]

You missed:

Spoiler: spoiler

She is a furless giant Ewok

 

[Kor]

Or

Spoiler: theory

Jakku is another name for Tatooine, and Rey is really a Tusken raider without the mask. Yes, they look like that!

Kor

 

[MNM]

Spoiler: Rey's Identity?

Face me Cousin! hmm (at the 20:36 mark)

http://ikwiz.com/article.asp?id=19903&name=Rey%27s+Identity+Confirmed+In+Disney+Infinity+3%2E0+%2D+The+Force+Awakens+Playset+Walkthrough%3F

Well this article...

Spoiler: for above...

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/12/24/sorry-star-wars-fans-but-disney-infinity-3-0-didnt-confirm-reys-parentage/ - thinks otherwise. We'll see

I really liked her character. I was undecided on her parentage after the film, but there were a few hints that lead me to lean towards her being a Solo - she coudl fly the Falcon easily, knew how to fix it, Chewie liked her and she understood him, she finishes Han's sentnces about stuff with the same words he sys at the same time at least once (possibly more, I forget off teh top of my head), Han's job offer smacked of trying to make up for not being there when she was young, Ren said that she felt Han was the "father she never had" etc...