Trek Returning to TV in 2017!

[eyeresist]

Do you think that anywhere near a sufficient amount of dukats would be made available to carry off even a significantly truncated version of your vision? Such an investment would imply that CBS has pretty extraordinary anticipations of success, the issue of it being streamed only in the domestic market for the first season notwithstanding.

Oh I'm 100% serious. I think this is the approach Trek needs to succeed in the modern TV landscape. If you look at shows like Game of Thrones, the Walking Dead or Mad Man you'll see fairly large casts with multiple arcs in play. Now not every character will be front and center every episode or every season. But they will be there contributing to the show depth and breadth.

In a way DS9 already paved the way for this, with the station, Bajor, the Defiant and the runabouts all available as regular, separate story locations (plus of course Cardassia towards the end, and maybe the MU if you want to count that too).

 

[fireproof78]

^ A confirmed Luddite and technophobe who not only posts on a Trek forum, but also writes Trek. Riiight...

(Yikes, this thread is moving too fast for me! This was obviously for you, Greg Cox!"

Would you believe me if I told you that I don't own a smartphone, have never texted in my life, that my TV set is at least 16 years old and still attached to a VCR player, that I've never read an ebook, or downloaded a movie from the internet?

Trust me, I'm much better at fake technology than real technology.

But, yes, I will adapt to new tech when I have to, like with email and electronic editing. It's just that I'm basically the opposite of an early adopter . . . . I'm usually a few years behind most of my friends and colleagues.

And getting back OT: a new STAR TREK show may be exactly the push I need to make me take the plunge in the scary world of "streaming" television . ...

Silly me-I went to work and missed the best part of this discussion

My wife is nearly a Luddite, and anti-smart phone. Our TV is new only because it was a gift and still have a VCR with a very large VHS collection. Our cell phones can call, text and take pictures and that's it.

Oh, and I'm excited for a new Trek series to. I think I can spend 6 bucks and cut a soda or two in my pay check.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Do you think that anywhere near a sufficient amount of dukats would be made available to carry off even a significantly truncated version of your vision? Such an investment would imply that CBS has pretty extraordinary anticipations of success, the issue of it being streamed only in the domestic market for the first season notwithstanding.

Oh I'm 100% serious. I think this is the approach Trek needs to succeed in the modern TV landscape. If you look at shows like Game of Thrones, the Walking Dead or Mad Man you'll see fairly large casts with multiple arcs in play. Now not every character will be front and center every episode or every season. But they will be there contributing to the show depth and breadth.

In a way DS9 already paved the way for this, with the station, the surface of Bajor, the Defiant and the runabouts all available as regular story locations (plus of course Cardassia towards the end, and maybe the MU if you want to count that too).

Yep. DS9 is very close to being a "Modern TV Show".

 

[fireproof78]

Thank you. At least someone with brains sees it, instead of this keen jerk assumption that older fans are scum who must be wrong in the head and cast aside.

I've been a Star Trek fan since September, 1966. And I love ALL forms of Trek, INCLUDING the newest films. Don't claim that "older fans" don't like the new movies.

Same here. And as I said above, setting this new show in the previous continuity would be an epic fail.

Bad example, because I don't think they actually rebooted the Marvel Universe.

Well, it was a semi-reboot, anyway.

Any way I hope the make the universe more wild and some what scary again like in the TOS era.

The new movies have been just that, as have the comic books based on the new movies.

Comic books reboot constantly. I actually manged to jump in on the latest reboot and enjoy several characters that I otherwise probably would not read because of how much back story there is.

I personally think the knew show will either be CBS own reboot or a spin off of the newer films, set later in that timeline or something like that.

 

[EnriqueH]

Finally, I'm able to express myself.

YYYYYYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It had to happen!

Buuuuut...we gotta pay extra?

I don't know, but I'm intrigued.

 

[ykickamoocow]

To me it would be madness not to put the new Star Trek series in the proper universe. They would have 28 seasons of back story to go on, a very developed universe to work with rather than starting out from scratch, introducing all the same stuff again but in a slightly different way.

 

[EnriqueH]

Well, what I read was that it was going to be an all new show with aliens and so forth.

 

[ykickamoocow]

Well, what I read was that it was going to be an all new show with aliens and so forth.

Plenty of ways to have an all new show with new aliens while keeping it set in the prime universe.

Also I am fine with DS9 level of grittiness, in fact that was great, but I really hope the shows producers and writers do not go down a Stargate Universe route, completely forgetting what people actually like about the show and instead making a younger/sexier version filled with angst and relationship problems between the main characters. The T'pol/Trip stuff was awful and made parts of season 3 unwatchable.

 

[fireproof78]

To me it would be madness not to put the new Star Trek series in the proper universe. They would have 28 seasons of back story to go on, a very developed universe to work with rather than starting out from scratch, introducing all the same stuff again but in a slightly different way.

Well, a reboot offers a variety of advantages, such as drawing in new viewers, freedom to recreate new tech based upon contemporary scientific understanding, and not needing to rely upon past shows to maintain some sense of consistency.

I think a reboot, if done properly, could bring some of the adventure and positivism that TOS had at the beginning, without being beholden to established races, storylines or conventions.

 

[martok2112]

QUOTE=Zombie Cheerleader;11336062]Obviously Kurtzman needs to steal my idea:

Deep Space Voyager the Next Generation​

An epic multi-POV, arc based series in the mode of Game of Thrones.

• Deep Space Nine- Formerly an orbital Cardassian ore processing station, the Bajoran Provisional Government has turned it over to Starfleet to serve as the base of operations for the defense and exploration of the Bajor Sector and beyond. In addition to Starfleet and the Bajoran Militia, there is a large civilian population on the station that includes Bajorans, Starfleet dependants and other foreign nationals.
  • Commodore Benjamin Sisko- Starfleet Commander for the Bajoran Sector. Sisko is veteran of the Cardassian Wars. His wife, Jennifer and son, Jake live with him on DS9, but he has misgivings about them being so close to the Cardassian border.
    Lt. Commander Tuvok- Starfleet Intelligence. Tuvok oversees various on ongoing SI operations in the sector. Some of which might be above Sisko's "pay grade".
  • Commander Katherine Pulaski- Chief Medical Officer. A veteran officer with strong opinions, she's often a thorn in the side of Sisko and his unofficial conscience. She's also fond of needling Tuvok and has a low opinion of "spies".
  • Lt. .Commander Data- Chief Operations Officer. An android. Data is in charge of keeping the station running. Given its blend of Federation. Cardassian and Bajoran technology it a task that keeps Data busy around the clock. Not needing sleep he is well suited for the task. As an android wishing to become more "human" Tuvok finds him fascinating.
  • Colonel Kira Nerys- Bajoran Liaison Officer. Kira was a member of the Bajoran Resistance during the Cardassian Occupation. She is still wanted in the Cardassian Union for terrorism. She coordinates activities that involve Starfleet and the Bajoran Militia.
  • Constable Odo- Chief of Law Enforcement for the station. A shapeshifter of unknown origin, Odo was raised on the station by Bajorans. He is strongly attached to the station and sees it as his only home. While nominally in charge of civilian law enforcement, Sisko likes to use Odo for Starfleet related operations as well.
  • Quark- A Ferengi merchant who runs a casino on DS9's promenade. He is also heavily involved in various criminal activities in the sector. As such, he and Odo have an adversarial relationship.
  • Garak- A Cardassian tailor who runs a shop on the promenade. He is the only Cardassian still on the station. His reasons for staying are currently a mystery. Though Tuvok certainly has a few ideas.
  • Dukat - A Gul in the Cardassian military. Dukat is the former Prefect of Bajor and presided over the transition from the Cardassian Union to the Bajoran Provisional Government. Currently he is the military commander for the Cardassian territory adjacent to the Bajor Sector. He would very much like to be Prefect of Bajor again.
• The USS Enterprise- A Galaxy class vessel, the Enterprise is the newest and most advanced ship in Starfleet. It's primary mission is establishing diplomatic relations with the new worlds beyond Bajor. It's staff includes a large diplomatic team.
  • Captain Jean-Luc Picard- The ship's Commanding Officer. Picard is a man weary of war. The prospect of commanding a mission of exploration and diplomacy has kept him Starfleet. He sees a new war on the horizon and is making every effort to change course.
  • Lt. Commander Chakotay- The ship's Executive Officer. Chakotay's homeworld was on the frontlines of the Cardassian Wars and now lies in Cardassian territory. He's not happy being a ship who's main objective is to "make nice" with the Cardassians.
  • Ambassador Deanna Troi- The sector's Chief Diplomatic Officer, she divides her time between DS9 and the Enterprise. As a civilian, she's not always greeted with open arms by Starfleet. Her goals are often at odds with Commodore Sisko's, the sector's military commander. Picard is more open minded and she prefers the Enterprise to DS9
    [*]Lt. B'Elanna Torres- The ship's Chief Engineering Officer. She served with Chakotay in the Cardassian Wars and shares his views on making peace with them.
  • Lt. Commander Beverly Crusher - The ship's Chief Medical Officer. The widow of Jack Crusher, Picard's former XO and closest friend. Her son is in Starfleet and she worries about his future.
  • Ensign Ro Laren- The ship's Flight Control Officer. Born in a Bajoran refugee camp she's never been to Bajor before this assignment. She's at odds with native born Bajorans, who see the refugees as cowards who chose to flee rather than fight
• The USS Defiant- A Defiant class light cruiser. Its primary mission is defense of the station and the Bajor system. It serves as the flagship for the commander of DS9.The Defiant is a warship, part of the legacy of the Cardassian Wars. It's crew is small and most are experienced combat officers.
  • Commander William T. Riker- The Defiant's Commanding Officer. Riker comes across as a genial sort, quick with a joke and a twinkle in his eye. He's also known to have an eye for the ladies. In a combat situation he's all business, though. A clever commander with a trick or two up his sleeve.
  • Lt. Commander Elizabeth Shelby- The ship's Executive Officer. She's all business, all the time and isn't afraid to speak her mind if she thinks Riker ( or anyone else) is wrong. She has high standards and if she had her way the crew would be drilling around the clock.
  • Lt. Worf- The ship's tactical officer. On a ship the size of the Defiant, tactical includes flight control. He respects Riker and admires Shelby.
  • EMH- Experimental Medical Hologram. A new technology currently being tested on the Defiant. It's inventor, Dr. Louis Zimmerman is on board overseeing the test. (or is he?)
  • Lt. Ezri Tigan- Medical Officer. Tigan is Combat Field Medic and provides backup for the EMH. An unjoined Trill, who's not on the candidate list, she lives life to the fullest.
  • Lt. Geordi La Forge- The ship's Chief Engineering Officer. Blinded in the Cardassian War, La Forge can interface with the ship's systems through his VISOR, a device that enables him to see. As such he feels and senses what the ship does. At times this seems to cut him off from his crewmates and he wonders if he is losing his humanity.
  • Ensign Harry Kim- Operations Officer. A rookie right out of the academy he's in awe of these "heroes".
• The USS Voyager- An Intrepid class scout ship. It primary mission is science and exploration. Most of its crew are in the Science division and the rest is comprised of young officers, some just out of the Academy. Because of this, the ship has been nicknamed "The School Bus". Voyager spends most of its time away from the Bajor Sector in unexplored territory.
  • Commander Kathryn Janeway- The ship's Commanding Officer. Formerly in the Science Division, this is Janeway's first command. For her the thrill of the "hunt" is what drives her. She needs to know what's behind the next nebula and beyond the farthest star.
  • Lt. Commander Jadzia Dax- The ship's Executive Officer and Chief Science Officer. A joined Trill, Dax can call upon decades of experience from her previous hosts. Which is at odds with her youthful appearance. A close friend of Sisko in her previous host, he still calls her "The Old Man". A name that followed her to Voyager.
  • Chief Petty Officer Miles O'Brien- The ship's Chief Engineer. The real old man aboard the ship, he has a decade on most of the crew. A veteran of the Cardassian Wars, He's one of Janeway's trusted advisors and a father figure to the younger crewmen. (Just don't tell him that). His wife, Keiko, lives on DS9.
  • Lt. Julian Bashir- The ship's Chief Medical Officer. Young, inexperienced and on his first deep space mission, Bashir is out of his element and tries to cover it up with bravado. O'Brien has taken him under his wing.
  • Ensign Wesley Crusher- Operations Officer. A gifted young man, Crusher completed Starfleet Academy in record time. He's the youngest member of the crew and very aware of this As such he is over eager to prove himself. His mother is the CMO on the Enterprise.
  • Lt. Tasha Yar- The Ship's Chief Security Officer. Growing up as an orphan on failed colony where every day was a fight for survival, Yar feels out of place on a ship full of scientists and overachievers.
  • Lt. Tom Paris- Flight Control Officer. Paris is onboard the Voyager as a favor to Admiral Owen Paris, Janeway's former CO. Paris has been a disciplinary problem (and embarrassment to his father) in the past. Voyager is his "last chance".

Assuming you're being in earnest, I only have one question. I do like the mash-up of characters that would have a good chance of creating interesting new dynamics that might expand the development of some of them (Voyager) that were stymied in their original iteration.

So, other than the fact that I think that the show will be set in the Nuverse as that sounds viable vis-a vis property rights, here is my question on your proposal.
How? Do you think that anywhere near a sufficient amount of dukats would be made available to carry off even a significantly truncated version of your vision? Such an investment would imply that CBS has pretty extraordinary anticipations of success, the issue of it being streamed only in the domestic market for the first season notwithstanding.

However, if you were just joshing, than just chalk these comments to my overly naïve sense of credulity.[/QUOTE]
I confess, I do like the mashup.... Especially with Ezri in it.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

We have nothing to post but fear itself.

I can't wait.

 

[TheAdmiralty]

To me it would be madness not to put the new Star Trek series in the proper universe. They would have 28 seasons of back story to go on, a very developed universe to work with rather than starting out from scratch, introducing all the same stuff again but in a slightly different way.

Nobody outside of the hardcore fandom cares about the old universe, certainly not Ds9/Voyager stuff. And that amount of backstory ties the writers hands and creates huge continuity issues. The new series will assuredly be set in the JJverse. I was hoping for a straight reboot with a completely new creative team.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

Re: Why would CBS do this?

We are supposed to be arguing over whether or not the warp nacelles are going to be blue!

Correct!

Sombreros... FULL INTENSITY!!!

 

[Drone]

QUOTE=Zombie Cheerleader;11336062]Oh I'm 100% serious. I think this is the approach Trek needs to succeed in the modern TV landscape. If you look at shows like Game of Thrones, the Walking Dead or Mad Man you'll see fairly large casts with multiple arcs in play. Now not every character will be front and center every episode or every season. But they will be there contributing to the show depth and breadth.

As for budget, I assume it would be on a scale similar to Game of Thrones or Walking Dead. Which have a fair amount of FX involved as well as costuming.

Storywise, like those show, we would be moving between characters/ships in each episode. Spend some time on DS9 dealing with Bajoran politics, then out to the "edge of space" where Voyager has made contact with a new race that threatens the UFP. The over to the Defiant and the Enterprise. dealing with trouble along the Cardassian border.

I think the approach is doable for CBS, [/QUOTE


Well I'm glad my first impulse was correct, but don't you think one can make a distinction with the other examples you mentioned given the proven success of their respective platforms? With the apparent lack of familiarity, let alone subscription to the CBS entry, at least at this point in time, you think they would have such exuberant expectations of Trek success that the investment in such parameters for the 13 or so episodes would be quite so easy to countenance?

 

[cooleddie74]

We have nothing to post but fear itself.

I can't wait.

This.

It is an honor to post my first reply to a Samuel T. Cogley post in I don't know how many years. A new Star Trek series is in the works and Cogley is posting about it.

The good old days are back, baby.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

I'm all about that positive energy. The hype is real, etc.

I've been waiting for this moment since ENT ended. Over a third of my life.

 

[cooleddie74]

We're getting a new series. The sehlat turd known as "TATV" did not air in vain.


For the most part. Kinda.


I guess what I'm getting at is that it didn't kill us.

 

[Quinton O'Connor]

May 13th, 2005 was not a good day to die, aye. Although none could be blamed for dying from it.

 

[INACTIVEUSS Einstein]

Honestly I shouldn't be suprised, but this thread is full of some really rude people, on both sides of the pro-and-anti NuTrek crowd. It makes us all look like an utter steriotype of fans being socially mal-adjusted fanatics who can't keep calm. Yes; some people have a problem with NuTrek - if you disagree with them, maybe say why, instead of attacking their character.

"Oh, Gawd, the producers are the same as for the Abrams movies!"
"Oh, Gawd, it won't be real Star Trek!"
"Oh, Gawd, everyone who enjoys Abrams' Trek are idiots, and are keeping us from our beloved Star Trek!"
"Oh, Gawd, my childhood is about to be raped again!"

We can do without this (IMO).

Anyway, if this is going to be a TNG reboot in the JJ Verse, what would everyone like to see?

 

[cooleddie74]

More exploration of Noonien Soong's positronic android technology, which may or may not be even more advanced in the alternate timeline created by the events in Trek '09? It opens up the possibility for even more advanced and sentient artificial life forms being discovered and even serving in Starfleet.