The Walking Dead Season 6 Discussion
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There's a lot of talk online of Nicholas being delirious and imagining the whole thing. That would be such an awful cop-out but with that in mind, I just re-watched the episode and there's a few things that don't add up.
1) Nicholas is out of bullets (hence he switches to knife) but then suddenly has a bullet to kill himself.
2) Nicholas shoots himself on right side of his head yet the blood also hits Glenn on the right side of his face.
3) They fall off the dumpster heads away (feet nearest the dumpster) but then we see Glenn's head next to the dumpster.
Walking Dead is known for continuity errors so who knows. I'm edging in favour of Glenn being alive though. Either he gets under the dumpster and survives or gets bitten and has an epic journey getting back to the wife to say what the other guy didn't get a chance to say.
The fact that next weeks episode is all about Morgan and we have to wait two weeks to find out also stinks of the writers playing with the audience.
1) Nicholas is out of bullets (hence he switches to knife) but then suddenly has a bullet to kill himself.
2) Nicholas shoots himself on right side of his head yet the blood also hits Glenn on the right side of his face.
3) They fall off the dumpster heads away (feet nearest the dumpster) but then we see Glenn's head next to the dumpster.
Walking Dead is known for continuity errors so who knows. I'm edging in favour of Glenn being alive though. Either he gets under the dumpster and survives or gets bitten and has an epic journey getting back to the wife to say what the other guy didn't get a chance to say.
The fact that next weeks episode is all about Morgan and we have to wait two weeks to find out also stinks of the writers playing with the audience.
Glenn and Nicholas were facing each other, blood sprays out of the exit wound, being pulled behind the bullet's velocity creating a suction effected aided by the blood pressure in the skull.
Glenn's not dead. This is mis-direction. They made a clear point to show Nicholas fall on top of Glenn, and a clear point to NOT show Glenn being ripped apart. At the beginning of the episode, there's a call-back to the pilot where Glenn calls Rick "Dumbass" on the radio. This mirrors the end of that episode, where Rick's horse is eaten and he escapes.
That being said, did anyone else notice the one walker who (right after they fell) looked extremely delighted to be feasting on intestines? I've never seen a happier zombie.
That being said, did anyone else notice the one walker who (right after they fell) looked extremely delighted to be feasting on intestines? I've never seen a happier zombie.
Maybe he's the one guy who thought to save a bullet for himself?
I'm leaning toward Glen being alive-- Walking Dead is not shy about showing people being eviscerated by peckish Zombies, not even major characters. Nicholas being consumed as an appetizer will give Glen time to crawl under the dumpster (which is what they should have done to begin with-- or, better yet, climbed inside it). Glen lives until proven dead.
While I agree that it was probably Nicholas getting torn apart, I think it would strain credibility to say that Glenn gets out of this without a scratch or a bite. Plus, they already pulled that fake-out last season, when Nicholas attacked him in the woods and left him with a bunch of walkers all over him. He miraculously survived that, so pulling the same thing with the same character would just be cheap.
This show has never pulled it's punches with character deaths, and having Glenn survive this unscathed would rob the show of its drama.
This show has never pulled it's punches with character deaths, and having Glenn survive this unscathed would rob the show of its drama.
Maybe they are making it a running joke in the show that Glenn is always on the verge of death and then he miraculously survives? Oh my God they killed Glenn 
I dont really know, there are some pretty convincing spoiler stuff around the web that push the scales little bit more to the other side, but it could also be misdirection and mean something completely different. Not sure if it has already been posted here, but here it is:
I dont really know, there are some pretty convincing spoiler stuff around the web that push the scales little bit more to the other side, but it could also be misdirection and mean something completely different. Not sure if it has already been posted here, but here it is:
http://sirchristopherlee.tumblr.com/post/131923730289/guys-glenn-isnt-dead-there-are-pictures-of
...or, they're just dragging out the suspense, making people hope for Glenn's survival, only to (as many of speculated) to have a wrap-up episode (probably in flashback) where Glenn escapes, but is in bad shape / reaching Maggie, only to die.
Of course, this might all be pointless speculation if that spoiler pic really points to another outcome. The show made a point of repeatedly teasing Glenn's demise: in season 5, Glenn finds the baseball bat--but he survived the season. Later that season, we were teased again with the fight between Glenn and Nicholas--but he survived that, too.
The fall into the zombies could be yet another tease to keep the interest going until audiences convince themselves that Glenn will survive, only to follow the comics at some time in the future.
So, you think that was a tell for the audience--not just sharing what is now a nostalgic term of endearment, but a hint to what was to come later in the episode--that despite Glenn being surrounded (like Rick in the tank), he too would escape by the skin of his teeth. Or perhaps it meant that the "dumbass" was an early warning signal to Rick that he was close to being in a similar situation and needed help.
With Rick last seen in an RV close to being swarmed, perhaps Rick escapes, but with the radio silence from Glenn, he finally understands "dumbass" and races to the rescue.
The picture of Glenn with
would suggest that he's either.
1) alive and well for future episodes (magic dumpster theory).
Or
2) bitten but helped back to Alexadria by said character so he can say goodbye to Maggie (alive but bitten theory).
But I think we can all agree that it was Nicholas getting his guts ripped out.
Jesus
1) alive and well for future episodes (magic dumpster theory).
Or
2) bitten but helped back to Alexadria by said character so he can say goodbye to Maggie (alive but bitten theory).
But I think we can all agree that it was Nicholas getting his guts ripped out.
Notice the different (clean) wardrobe and different gun holster in the picture. So it doesnt happen immediately after the dumpster scene. He has been back home to change.
Of course they could be just filming some flashback scene in the adjacent location and Steven has just come over there to chat.. And the whole crew seems to be watching something together.
I dunno. Walking dead has never used the flashback device that much as a means of giving a character some backstory. It would be especially convenient if a new character is introduced by turning up in Glenn's past during a flash back scene. Who knows.
We could speculate forever but I think Glenn certainly isn't dead. Best case scenario, he somehow got out of that situation. Worst case scenario, he escaped but was bitten. Definitely not dead though.
I have actually enjoyed this season quite a bit more than the previous two in spite of the dumbass decisions made by the characters. Glenn is also a character with which I have grown to love over the past six years. That having been said. If Glenn somehow survived the zombie bottleneck from which there is no escape, I will be super pissed. That's just shark jumping on an epic scale.
This show loves to pride itself on taking no prisoners when it comes to killing off cast members (as long as said cast members aren't Rick, Daryl, Carol, COOORRRRRRAAALLLLLL! and Glenn). Killing Glenn would be a double-edged sword. It would be sad to see him go, but it would also let you know that nobody is safe in this show. So for Glenn to roll under the dumpster while the zombies shuffle off for no reason would be the biggest cop out of all cop outs and suck the dramatic tension straight from the show like the air out of a hull breach.
But, I also know that wasn't Glenn being torn apart, unless Glenn's entrails are located in his esophagus.
This show loves to pride itself on taking no prisoners when it comes to killing off cast members (as long as said cast members aren't Rick, Daryl, Carol, COOORRRRRRAAALLLLLL! and Glenn). Killing Glenn would be a double-edged sword. It would be sad to see him go, but it would also let you know that nobody is safe in this show. So for Glenn to roll under the dumpster while the zombies shuffle off for no reason would be the biggest cop out of all cop outs and suck the dramatic tension straight from the show like the air out of a hull breach.
But, I also know that wasn't Glenn being torn apart, unless Glenn's entrails are located in his esophagus.
What if there is a man hole cover under that dumpster?? Not sure how he would open it though.
Notice Steven's clothing--he's wearing his holster.
Well, it would not be the first "great escape" by WD characters. Slow Tyreese was completely surrounded by walkers when the car was stuck in walker parts, but he just stood there, and hammered his way free. The walkers were closing in--some within arm's length, if I recall, but he survived.
So Glenn knew he was going to run into a blind alley ahead of time? Even before he knew that his plan of burning the feed store would turn out bad?
The difference being, though, that Tyreese had full range of motion and a hammer. Glenn is pinned under a headless guy surrounded by hundreds of hangry zombies and a dumpster. Assuming it is Nicholas' insides being torn out and Glenn is safely cocooned underneath, the zombies shouldn't stop tearing apart Nicholas' body once they reach his spinal cord. They should continue eating and tearing until they reach dirt, which, unfortunately, is under Glenn. At the very least, the way Nicholas fell should have left Glenn's extremities and head in full munching range.
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