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Count me on the original FX side of the fence, especially when it comes to the space shots. I especially don't like the way the new FX aren't edited to match the live action story being told. of course there are other niggles, like the aforementioned EI shot, where they took one of the few shots of ships in 3 dimensions and space-laked it.

 

Count me in the TOS-R camp. I loved it when our local station started broadcasting the revised version. I noticed details that were never visible on our little 13" TV, when I was a teenager. It renewed my love for a venerable old friend... Star Trek.

Thankfully, our old versions are still available, unlike George Lucas playing fast and loose with his.

In the end, it doesn't matter what us old fans want. The question for CBS has always been, "Will it make us money?" TOS-R has made them money.

 

Yes.

 

And...?

Of course TOS was very much in danger of being "forgotten" where it matters to the people who own it - forgotten by the audience that might represent a future for their IP. They knew damned well that the original versions were not going to sell on Blu-Ray or command any kind of wprthwhile license fees on HD cable.

Silent movies are curiosities now, not art that's widely enjoyed generation after generation. If TOS is nothing but an artifact of its time, ignored by almost everyone a few decades hence, then all the brave words bandied about by fans regarding its "timelessness" would be pretty vapid.

 

I still fail to see how the effects make such a big difference since the rest of the show looks so antique.

And, again, my biggest objection to the new FX is that they simply do not fit the visual style of every fucking frame of film surrounding them. The CBS digital crew utterly dropped the ball in that regard.

 

I think they're uneven, mainly with regard to the space shots; the earliest work where they stuck close to the original compositions is the best (though the model used early on had some problems). Most of the matte replacements are pretty good, and occasionally clever.

 

Ive been watching the DVD versions with original effects also. They just hold more memories for me. Except for a few of the matt paintings, added shots on Vulcan and the Doomsday machine episode there isn't much I really liked about the new effects. Sometimes they even did the effects worse or they didn't look much different.

 

I think "insulting" is a bit strong. I don't thinks folks are advocating throwing out the originals. But there are advantages to remastering. It can entice a new generation that lacks the imagination or patience of earlier folks. As a means to an end it has a purpose IMO - and a useful one. That said, I do understand that it's playing with history at a fundamental level and that can be dangerous. That may seem like an overstatement, but consider there is a whole generation out there that think the # key is on their phones (put there) for no other purpose than twittering.

 

I regret using the word "insulting." At the time it was the first word that came to mind, but upon later reflection "offensive" didn't seem quite right either. The words "disturbing," "disrespectful" and "disdainful" seem more on the mark of what I should have said.

 

And four generations unaware of the dispute over if a # is an "octothorpe" or an "octotherp" or something else.

 

I'm still waiting for Donny's sets for that Occulus Rift experience .

 

Kindly point out this baby Horta. I see two guys and a pipe or something.



Just watched the scene again, and there's nothing moving out there but those two men.

 

I recently started another TOS remastered re-watch and continue to appreciate the efforts that were put into what continues to be my favourite television program of all time. There's more than enough room for both versions.
With TNG done, I'd also like to see the remainder of the series to get the Blu-ray treatment - despite understanding that the economics side of the business make that unlikely.

 

But that will happen eventually anyway. The TOS-R project got the property over the HDTV transition, but I wonder how long that will keep it relevant. The way I see it, if old movies are any example, future audiences will increasingly place a premium on historic value, and try to get as original a version as possible. Eventually, the revised versions will be a curiosity with even smaller audience interest than the originals.

 

Good point.

 

But it will be a very few that ever have that interest.

 

That's unknown.

It's interesting to look at old films and series and marvel at what they were able to do considering the resources at hand.

 

Right, that's what I'm saying. Few will have an interest in TOS, period, in the scheme of the overall entertainment market, and only a small subset of that will have an interest in the revised versions.

 

Well we don't know that yet. Maybe in another 50 years. So far its still popular. Also even though I am not a fan of NuTrek it has help to get the youngins to at least check out TOS. By the time the show becomes irrelevant we will all be dead so none of us will care.