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Re-doing Voyager

Hum, interesting idea -- what to redo.


Well, first off, we dump the stupid Caretaker plot and we make it far, far more dramatic.

Instead of being dragged over there, say Volyager was persuing the Marquis into an unstable area of space. Say they wre ambushed by several Marquis vessels and a battle insues where we get to see what Voyager has to offer.

Sheilds fluctuate and terrorists get onboard, kidnapping an officer (how about Harry? He sees like a guy that gets kidnapped often) and beaming out.
The cheif engineer is killed during the bording.

Like TNG's "Yesterday's Enterprise", there's a fierce folloy of photon (and quantum) torpedoes and a violent rift opens, swallowing Voyager and one of the Marquis ships.

The journey is harsh and both ships are spit out the otherside damanged. Voyager's shields fail, the rfit closes, and Paris informs Janeway the enemy vessel's core is going critical. She orders an immediate beam out. They get them and the Marquis ship blows, leaving Voyager without shields and the debris impacts the ship, causing more damage.

There's some struggles and stand offs (I'll leave that open here) and we get Chacotay, Tuvok (still under cover -- I'll keep that plot point) and Torres (only Torres is not Klingon, she's Romulan, adding greatly to the tense situation on the ship with her build-in distrust of Starfeelt and humans).

They are put in the brig, except Tuvok, which enrages Chacotay when he finds out the double cross.

Meanwhile back on the Bridge, Janeway has found out not only are they badly damanged, but they are several lights years from the alpha quandrant (maybe not 70, but 50, making it more achievable but also still keeping it far off).

Immediate repairs are ordered. Just as sheilds have been regained, they are attacked by an unidentified vessel. People are injured, the doctor has to bring the Emergency Medical Hologram online to help, and the enemy ship is badly damaged in the attack, unprepared for quantum torpedoes.

The captain of the vessel refuses to drop his shields to allow them to be saved from the core which is going critical and sends out subspace message to persons unknown, and warning Janeway this will not go unpunished. The vessel blows.

The episode ends with Janeway being informed of casulties, badly damanged systems -- some needing several days to repair, and some things might not be able to be repaired without resources not readily available onboard. And then there's the matter of no cheif engineer.

Voyager limps threw space on a directional heading toward home, unable to go to warp with certain repairs being needed that have to shutdown the warp systems.

And so concludes episode one.



Episode two opens with Voyager still in bad shape. Funeral services are breifly held (no time for longer ones -- got to get the hell out of that space before others comes).
Then there is the moral question of what to do with Chacotay and Torres. They are 50 or more years from home even at high warp -- can't leave them in the brig forever. Extra hands are needed. But Torres deeply distrusts everybody but Chacotay and unlike Voyager as it aired, Chacotay is edgy and not amiable and probably not to be trusted.
Janeway learns Torres served as an assistant cheif engineer on a Romulan warbird and makes the questionable decision to have her serve as cheif engineer until somebody else can be appointed, since a full crew wasn't actually picked up yet (they weren't arriving until tuesday...). She utterly refuses but after telling Torres the situation and that it is either life or death, so agrees, only as far as getting things up and running; but it coems with a price -- she has to be given access to key systems and knowledge no Romulan would ever be given.

Now there is a problem with no second-in-command. There are at least two people more qualified for the position than Chacotay, but with security staff at a low and needed elsewhere, Janeway takes it upon herself to keep an eye on Chacotay and appoints him temporary commander.

Red alert, unknown vessel approaching. Voyager is hailed by a clunky rather disasterous-looking ship.

Communicatiosn are opened but are slow as the universal translator picks up the language. As luck would have it, it is a trading vessel that detected Voyager and found they might be in need and proposes bartering.

They soon learn they are on the edges of a milliterised area of space with a waring race and are thankfull almost out.

Janeway barters for certain things at the advice of Engineering and for any information on the layout of space. Chacotay suggests, having haggled with Pakleds and Ferengi before, he should handle it. When the trader finds out Voyager has a technology they've never seen the like of -- replicators -- a secret subspace message is send out to pary(ies) unknown.

Unlike the original series, the doctor is not killed off. We'll save him, get to know him and love him, then a year or two later kill him off, leaving the EMH in charge, making a hell of an extra wallop on the crew.

We get to start knowing the crew and seeing their interactions and the interactiosn with Torres and Chacotay. We'll probably have to amend her name to make it more Romulan sounding.

Things seem better, many damanges are fixed and the crew more calmed, so Janeway decides to go to warp and hold off some repairs until they have exited the danger zone.

The epsiode ends with the trading vessel captain recieving a subspace communication from a dangerous looking being and tellimg him what Voyager has. This is the opposing race in the battle, that is loosing and needs an edge; replicators and quantum torpedoes will do it. Now Voyager is being hunted by a small contigent of war vessels.


How about that for two episodes?


Betrayls, heartbreak, death, constant setbacks and beating downs, attacks, anda band of crew that come together and are forced to rely on each other, whether they like it or not, for the rest are their lives.

The Borg will be in it later but they will be more like TNG Borg (ignoring First Contact). The Ferengi vessel from that TNG episode that got swallowed and sent to the delta quadrant, will appear -- maybe even leave one of them as an added crew member.

And we'll even pick up Neelix later. He'll be rescued from a slave ship.

That should about do it for some general ideas.
 
The Vidiians were fine. But they'd need time and cannon fodder to properly develop their enemies as threatening, and with the "Always on the move" thing they couldn't do that.

Imagine if the Dominion only showed up like 2-3 times in DS9 and they never killed anyone. How threatening would they be then?

Maybe they should have met the borg earlier and instead of one borg space, having borg "zones" here and there. That way the borg could have been developed to taste.

I like this idea, actually. Especially using trans-warp hubs for them to branch out, but not necessarily involved a whole section of the quadrant. The danger of the Borg could be that they might be lurking around every corner.
 
The Vidiians were fine. But they'd need time and cannon fodder to properly develop their enemies as threatening, and with the "Always on the move" thing they couldn't do that.

Imagine if the Dominion only showed up like 2-3 times in DS9 and they never killed anyone. How threatening would they be then?

Maybe they should have met the borg earlier and instead of one borg space, having borg "zones" here and there. That way the borg could have been developed to taste.

I like this idea, actually. Especially using trans-warp hubs for them to branch out, but not necessarily involved a whole section of the quadrant. The danger of the Borg could be that they might be lurking around every corner.

And long before unimatrix zero, where they assimilate voluntarily, which seems a little over the top, they could have retrieved one of their comrade assimilated by a borg "patrol" , like maybe harry, so then the doctor's knowledge is brought to bear in order to deassimilate him. That could generate some drama. Kim for instance could suffer from borg ptsd (which would be plausible) and do crazy things... etc... But do that in season one not in season seven when everybody's sick to their stomach of the borg.
 
Hum, interesting idea -- what to redo.


Well, first off, we dump the stupid Caretaker plot and we make it far, far more dramatic.

Instead of being dragged over there, say Voyager...

I really like this whole premise. I found the Caretaker plot had so many holes in it that to scrap it entirely is a good thing. Also having a romulan wound be great. They toyed with it for a little while on ds9 when they introduced to defiant, but seemed to quickly forget about it again.

I think to have had Voyager in much worse shape at the beginning, and having it take quite a while for them to fix the ship would have really allowed for the characters to grow close to each other (or some maybe to loose it with constant threat and awful working conditions)
 
Hum, interesting idea -- what to redo.


Well, first off, we dump the stupid Caretaker plot and we make it far, far more dramatic.

Instead of being dragged over there, say Voyager...

I really like this whole premise. I found the Caretaker plot had so many holes in it that to scrap it entirely is a good thing. Also having a romulan wound be great. They toyed with it for a little while on ds9 when they introduced to defiant, but seemed to quickly forget about it again.

I think to have had Voyager in much worse shape at the beginning, and having it take quite a while for them to fix the ship would have really allowed for the characters to grow close to each other (or some maybe to loose it with constant threat and awful working conditions)
Incidentally, the Romulan woman on DS9 was Seska's spitting Romulan image.:lol:
 
Seska is actually T'Rul, that would've made for an interesting twist and explain what happened to the Sub-Commander :)
 
^ The Romulan lady from DS9, played by the same actress as Seska. Her rank was Sub-Comander (by coincidence I just finished the two-parter where she's around and wondered that she looked familiar)
 
^ The Romulan lady from DS9, played by the same actress as Seska. Her rank was Sub-Comander (by coincidence I just finished the two-parter where she's around and wondered that she looked familiar)
T'Pol was a sub-commander too. So Vulcans and Romulans have the same army ranks...

I take it that sub-commander is equivalent to lieutenant commander.
 
I've always seen sub-commander being the equivalent of a Starfleet commander. Seeing as how in the Romulan military a Commander is in charge of warbirds.

I then place the rank of centurion under sub-commander, making them the equivalent of a lieutenant commander. But that's just how I look at it.
 
I've always seen sub-commander being the equivalent of a Starfleet commander. Seeing as how in the Romulan military a Commander is in charge of warbirds.

I then place the rank of centurion under sub-commander, making them the equivalent of a lieutenant commander. But that's just how I look at it.

It makes sense.
 
Episode 3


Dramatic tense music (Dennis McCarthy -- darn right I'd keep him).

Voyager goes by steadily in high warp, leaving a trail of dry plasma behind it like a stream from a fired missile.

Voiceover from Janeway, for a captain's log. Voyager has been attacked by five enemy vessels and a decision was made to run for it, completely outgunned. Thankfully Voyager has a comporable warp system and the enemy has not overtaken, but warp is failing and there is not enough power to keep going lest Voyager has to stop and power down to recharge.
Torres informs the captain they'll have to drop out of warp now or risk further damange.

Chacotay suggests dumping more dry plasma and firing phasers to ignite it in the face of the enemies and head for the nebula within impulse engine distance. If it doesn't work, they will be unable to jump back to warp until they can replicate more dry plasma or attain more and draining power resources for enough plasma will make them vulnerable.

Voyager drops out of warp, dumps the dry plasma and as the enemy vessels drop out and pass through it, unaware of their mistake, the plasmas is ignited, lighting up their shields in a fiery glimmer which then takes the sheilds out and damages the vessels. Voyager limps into the nebula at full impulse.

An emergency meting is held for suggestions from the senior staff. The decision is made to repair the minor damamges and stop the venting and limp out the cloud at full impulse; the longer they remain, the more enemy vessels could show up. There's no time.

Torres pulls aside Chacotay after the meeeting and suggests Voyager has had it. Steal a shuttle, and barter technology to safety, let Janeway and crew die, including Tuvok, suggesting maybe even murder him before they leave. Chacotay agrees, but there isn't enough time to get Tuvok. As soon as they are clear of the nebula and sensors function properly, they'll make a run for it.

Repairs are completed and Voyager limps out the nebula and goes to full impulse. Janeway realizes she's lost track of Chacotay and pages him over the comm.

Red alertc. Enemy vessel closing. One of the persuing vessels was not dmanaged badly enough to be set adrift and is persuing them at impulse.

Paris dodges photon torpedos and and what phasers he can, still getting the sheilds hit. Tuvok fires back.
The enemy vessels closes.

Torres and Chacotay exchange phaser fire with a guard posted at the shuttle bay entrance. The ship shakes from a bad hit and when the doors slide open, they both have to grab the sides as aft shields are failed and the shuttle bay doors were hit and space has sucked the preasure out, picking up and officer and sucking him out the tear in the door. An emergency close is ordered and as the door closes, they pull out. That's now out of the question.

The enemy vessel orders them to surrendor of the next shot will be across the Bridge.

Janeway hesitently asks aloud of the ship should be put on self destruct. Tuvok informs them another vessel is closing from infront. The enemy vessel from behind makes an about face and the new vessel fires out it repeatedly until it finally blows. Tovuk then states there has been phaser fire outside the shuttle bay, with Torres and Chacotay's comm badge signatures detected. A site-to-site transport is ordered for both of them to the Brig.

The new vessel hails them. The commander of the vessel informs them they are a civilian self-patrol vessel and that Voyager has exited enemy space to the other side at war. The commander seeks out and helps other vessels in distress along the vast border while not strictly a war ship.

After asking, Janeway is informed they can be of assistance with dry plasma, just follow them to a small outpost station. Voyager limps along, barely maintaining full impulse.

Janeway, "Tuvok, you have the Bridge. I'll be in the Brig..."

Janeway now has a problem -- she's back where she started with Torres and Chacotay and now short a cheif Engineer and first officer.

Very serious words are exchanged and she leaves them there.

In her quarters she sits down, low luminosity, and cups her face, rubbing her hands threw hre hair and lowering her head. Now what?
 
And long before unimatrix zero, where they assimilate voluntarily, which seems a little over the top, they could have retrieved one of their comrade assimilated by a borg "patrol" , like maybe harry, so then the doctor's knowledge is brought to bear in order to deassimilate him. That could generate some drama. Kim for instance could suffer from borg ptsd (which would be plausible) and do crazy things... etc... But do that in season one not in season seven when everybody's sick to their stomach of the borg.


blech. Unimatrix Zero. I could go on a tangent about Unimatrix Zero. But I believe I already have somewhere.

I am relieved I wasn't the only one sick of the Borg.
 
And long before unimatrix zero, where they assimilate voluntarily, which seems a little over the top, they could have retrieved one of their comrade assimilated by a borg "patrol" , like maybe harry, so then the doctor's knowledge is brought to bear in order to deassimilate him. That could generate some drama. Kim for instance could suffer from borg ptsd (which would be plausible) and do crazy things... etc... But do that in season one not in season seven when everybody's sick to their stomach of the borg.


blech. Unimatrix Zero. I could go on a tangent about Unimatrix Zero. But I believe I already have somewhere.

I am relieved I wasn't the only one sick of the Borg.

To be fair, I've been thinking for a long time that there was nothing Voyager could've done with the Borg to make people happy except run like cowards from them the entire show.

People were complaining as soon as they saw the Borg Corpse in "Blood Fever" for crying out loud.
 
And long before unimatrix zero, where they assimilate voluntarily, which seems a little over the top, they could have retrieved one of their comrade assimilated by a borg "patrol" , like maybe harry, so then the doctor's knowledge is brought to bear in order to deassimilate him. That could generate some drama. Kim for instance could suffer from borg ptsd (which would be plausible) and do crazy things... etc... But do that in season one not in season seven when everybody's sick to their stomach of the borg.


blech. Unimatrix Zero. I could go on a tangent about Unimatrix Zero. But I believe I already have somewhere.

I am relieved I wasn't the only one sick of the Borg.

To be fair, I've been thinking for a long time that there was nothing Voyager could've done with the Borg to make people happy except run like cowards from them the entire show.

People were complaining as soon as they saw the Borg Corpse in "Blood Fever" for crying out loud.
I wonder what happened to the ex-borg from unity. It's too bad we never got news on them.
 
To be fair, I've been thinking for a long time that there was nothing Voyager could've done with the Borg to make people happy except run like cowards from them the entire show.

People were complaining as soon as they saw the Borg Corpse in "Blood Fever" for crying out loud.

Exactly, look at "Q, Who" and "Best of Both Worlds" the Borg are awesome villains because just one of their ships can make starfleet fight with the back to the wall, they are vast and incomprehensible and unfathomable powerful.

But that's also the main problem with them; how do you turn this enormous, unbeatable cybernetic leviathan into a recurring villain? Voyage wouldn't have stood a chance against the Borg as portrayed in TNG.
The only way I can see it work if Voyager would have been "below the radar" of the collective. It is, after all, just one, small ship of an already encountered species, so the org might find it "irrelevant". However then you can't have many storis featuring them..
 
To be fair, I've been thinking for a long time that there was nothing Voyager could've done with the Borg to make people happy except run like cowards from them the entire show.

People were complaining as soon as they saw the Borg Corpse in "Blood Fever" for crying out loud.

Exactly, look at "Q, Who" and "Best of Both Worlds" the Borg are awesome villains because just one of their ships can make starfleet fight with the back to the wall, they are vast and incomprehensible and unfathomable powerful.

But that's also the main problem with them; how do you turn this enormous, unbeatable cybernetic leviathan into a recurring villain? Voyage wouldn't have stood a chance against the Borg as portrayed in TNG.
The only way I can see it work if Voyager would have been "below the radar" of the collective. It is, after all, just one, small ship of an already encountered species, so the org might find it "irrelevant". However then you can't have many storis featuring them..

As has been said several times, the borg assimilate civilizations, planets, species, they don't assimilate individuals, or as Guinan put it, they don't do anything piecemeal. Voyager would have had no problem going through their space, the only problem would be to get supplies, which could be a real inconvenience.
 
^Yep, that's why I wrote "a small ship from an already encountered civilisation" = nothing new to gain from it from the TNG borg point of view. They still would have boarded it, taken a few test samples and then left it alone if they found nothing interesting on it. That might have been how Seven would have joined the crew if they had stayed true to the original presentation.
It could have been a very nice cerebral horror, however not very action-adventure (which is fine with me, but not with many others I'm sure).

As for supplies, since the borg in their original portrayal either just took test samples or
stripped whole cities off of planets (with the implication that they were interested in the technology not the people) Voyager would have likely encounered a lot of societies that were either too low-tech for the borg to strip-mine them or that were remnants of civilizations/societies, reduced to a barren, post-apocalyptic state. If they had chosen Ocapa could have been a world previously "ravaged" by the borg and the Kazon could have been the remnant of another species who lost their home to them.
 
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