Was Seven a Virgin?
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Didn't Gene Roddenberry posit the idea that the Enterprise crew were all rutting like rabbits, but that birth control had advanced to the point in the 23rd century where it had a 100% success rate? And that the pill (or whatever it is) is mandatory? Ergo, it isn't that the crew are trained not to indulge in those urges, more that it doesn't matter if they do.
That's Gene Roddenberry for you.
How does that work in Voyager's context though?
If they needed to ration the replicators, chances are they needed to ration the birth control too.
I guess more people had to take a leaf out of Tuvok's book and indulge in a little holodeck fantasy.
For Naomi Wildman and Miral Paris to be the only babies ever born on ship, it's clear that nobody else was f***ing around, that much is for sure.
That's Gene Roddenberry for you.
How does that work in Voyager's context though?
If they needed to ration the replicators, chances are they needed to ration the birth control too.
I guess more people had to take a leaf out of Tuvok's book and indulge in a little holodeck fantasy.
For Naomi Wildman and Miral Paris to be the only babies ever born on ship, it's clear that nobody else was f***ing around, that much is for sure.
Obviously I was imagining a wheel chair bound 90 year old throwing cigarettes at you while you dance for her.
In DS9, Sisko and Cassiday both admit to absent mindedly for getting to get their monthly contraception hyposhot from Sickbay.
Once a month.
Requires a Medical professional.
The medical professional does not send reminder to your PADD.
Male and Female equally responsible.
Both have to fail their duty to take a monthly shot to accidentally make a baby.
Please consider... The Killing Game lasted one Month.
How long did Workforce last?
So, Joan Crawford in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? You're too kind.
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In exchange, all you have to do, is say things like "No honey, your bedsores make you look more attractive."
(I was actually thinking of Sunset Boulevard. I'm finished. Sorry.)
In exchange, all you have to do, is say things like "No honey, your bedsores make you look more attractive."
(I was actually thinking of Sunset Boulevard. I'm finished. Sorry.)
Harry was a little in the disease (but that's a different discussion)
But generally no.....however, that was usually because it was always "acceptable" sex (monogamous, heterosexual, emotionally invested, leading to a relationship type sex) never just....i fancy a fuck
A ship staffed entirely by transgendered people. When i first read that, i thought aww, that's so nice.....but then i thought, hang on, that's actually a bit dark. That would mean they've basically ghetto-ised ships....."Oh look another freak, quick let's put them on the ship with the other freaks and keep them as far away from us as possible".....no, i don't like the sound of that. And besides, we know that mixed crews exist so the fact that there are no examples of otherness on those mixed crews is probably a bad sign
So presumably abortion is still around in the 24th century (to deal with moments like those^......i mean, Star fleet must anticipate that some weird shit might possibly happen out in space and occasionally, erm....need fixing)
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24th century Federation humans are obviously too enlightened/"evolved" to take advantage of Seven.
More importantly, however, I can't see anyone taking advantage of Seven. She's SEVEN. She's Borg-strong, and she has a mind like a diamond -- hard, clear, and pointed. If some aggressive Voyager personnel attempted to take advantage of her, I think she'd break a few limbs. She's terrifying! I could see her taking advantage of someone more passive than Harry (Gary the Snail, perhaps), or having a relationship with a peer, or perhaps a block of wood in uniform, but not being duped.
More importantly, however, I can't see anyone taking advantage of Seven. She's SEVEN. She's Borg-strong, and she has a mind like a diamond -- hard, clear, and pointed. If some aggressive Voyager personnel attempted to take advantage of her, I think she'd break a few limbs. She's terrifying! I could see her taking advantage of someone more passive than Harry (Gary the Snail, perhaps), or having a relationship with a peer, or perhaps a block of wood in uniform, but not being duped.
Theft, not rape.
Besides the end result is the new guy was a better Tom than Tom.
Tom was fucking his own life.
Vis a Vis: The Masturbation episode.
Besides the end result is the new guy was a better Tom than Tom.
Tom was fucking his own life.
Vis a Vis: The Masturbation episode.
There are a few that qualify as such.
Well, she's a virgin, she can't have any alcohol in her...
Are we talking about the same thing?
I'm talking about Steth having sex with B'Ellanna when he was in Tom's body (then gloating about it when he was in Janeway's)
I don't remember Chakotay saying he had sex with the woman from unforgettable, or Neelix with the Klingon woman or any number of other examples etc
At some point, you make an assumption based on what you're presented with
As i recall, Tom is aplogising to B'Ellanna, he gets very saucy, they start kissing (she is very responsive) then we cut to another scene
Then at the end (as Janeway) he gloats "be sure to send my best regards to B'Elanna"
This episode implies an act of sex as heavily (if not more so) than most
Under those circumstances, believing that they didn't have sex seems like the far more stranger conclusion to make
I am sorry but I find this highly speculative. Plus I think Tom would have been a little more upset than he was if he had suspected that his doppelganger had slept with the woman of his life. I am sorry but I just don't buy it. The way someone does sex is very personal, much like a thumbprint. Had he actually slept with her, she might have realized that he was someone else. Remember how unsuccessful he was to convince Seven that he was the genuine article, I think he wasn't stupid enough to think that he could convince a woman that he was her actual lover.
In Kurosawa's Kagemusha, where a double replaces the master. He is forbidden to sleep with the mistresses not because it was immoral, something the Japanese don't give a damn about, but because they suspected that he wouldn't be able to fool them into thinking that he was the real McCoy. In the end it was the horse taht gave him away. Never underestimate someone's favorite animal!
I don't believe for a minute that there are segregated gay and trans crews in Trek. That kind of division is completely against Trek philosophy.
For what it's worth we see LGBT and other non-cis/het aliens integrated in mainstream Starfleet crews in the novels. Jadzia Dax didn't seem to be in any danger of transfer when she contemplated a relationship with Dax's former wife.
For what it's worth we see LGBT and other non-cis/het aliens integrated in mainstream Starfleet crews in the novels. Jadzia Dax didn't seem to be in any danger of transfer when she contemplated a relationship with Dax's former wife.
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First we don't know about that because they didn't let it develop far enough and the threat of being rejected by Star Fleet was negligible compared to the symbiont being practically put to death by being prevented to go to another host. Second, we never ever see or hear about same sex relationship on DS9 for example or any other st, and yet we hear about everything else, like people that reproduce by budding for example.... All sorts of diversity and yet in all of that there isn't a line about same sex relationships, how coincidental!! Don't you think?
First we don't know about that because they didn't let it develop far enough and the threat of being rejected by Star Fleet was negligible compared to the symbiont being practically put to death by being prevented to go to another host. Second, we never ever see or hear about same sex relationship on DS9 for example or any other st, and yet we hear about everything else, like people that reproduce by budding for example.... All sorts of diversity and yet in all of that there isn't a line about same sex relationships, how coincidental!! Don't you think?
Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 113: Always have sex with the boss.
Quarks (completely male staff of) bartenders were his harem of sex performers.
Does that mean that he slept with Nog?
Quarks (completely male staff of) bartenders were his harem of sex performers.
Does that mean that he slept with Nog?
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