8X04 "Listen" Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!

[YellowSubmarine]

The scene doesn't have to be literal as to screengrab it. It was obviously intended to look non-human on screen. It was also obviously intended to be ambiguous and perhaps unanswered. Just because it looks non-human doesn't make it not human – it could as well be metaphoric of what they imagined behind them.

As to what was under the blanked and then blurred, I think this is the stuntman who played the figure: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0787449/

 

[Mr Awe]

^ If it was meant to be ambiguous, why show it at all? They didn't have to.

Mr Awe

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Because it was scarier that way.

 

[Venardhi]

The scene doesn't have to be literal as to screengrab it. It was obviously intended to look non-human on screen. It was also obviously intended to be ambiguous and perhaps unanswered. Just because it looks non-human doesn't make it not human – it could as well be metaphoric of what they imagined behind them.

As to what was under the blanked and then blurred, I think this is the stuntman who played the figure: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0787449/

I could buy that. He has kind of a strangely-proportioned face that at least mostly matches up with the blur.

 

[Mr Awe]

Because it was scarier that way.

The approach of doing that reduces the ambiguity.

Mr Awe

 

[Stevil2001]

Can we just talk about what an amazing dress Clara wore on her date? I loved that dress so much.

 

[Cutter John]

Can we just talk about what an amazing dress Clara wore on her date? I loved that dress so much.

I've been spending too much time on Facebook. I read that and started looking for the Like button.

 

[Australis]

Mmm, no. I'll persevere, and there are lines and scenes that are still quite striking, I've just fallen out of love with Moff's 'big themes' or 'big arcs' in each season.

If I may, please don't become Count McGrumpy in the meantime.

Noooo, I'd never do that, we have/had enough of those around here, naming no names (GB).

 

[Newspaper Taxi]

Looking at the still-frame I think I see a young Face of Boe. Strange.

 

[Joel_Kirk]

Can we just talk about what an amazing dress Clara wore on her date? I loved that dress so much.

Well, I was just thinking Clara looked cute in the episode anyhow, no matter what she was wearing....

 

[Timewalker]

Though Troughton seemed to remember events from The Three Doctors in The Five Doctors.

Side-effect of being back in the company of One and Two?

He was in the company of the Brigadier.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Though Troughton seemed to remember events from The Three Doctors in The Five Doctors.

Side-effect of being back in the company of One and Two?

He was in the company of the Brigadier.

I meant more sort of that the various Doctors were being drawn together at this time (or these times, technically), even if they weren't directly in each other's presence.

 

[Sci]

I did not get the impression that Clara was somehow "responsible for the Doctor becoming the Doctor," and I did not get the impression we're supposed to think she's the "most important companion ever." That's just looking for something to bitch about without paying attention to the artistic merits of the story.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Because it was scarier that way.

The approach of doing that reduces the ambiguity.

Mr Awe

Or maintains it. Without some misdirection at this point it would have been clearer that there wasn't no such creature much earlier on. This tricks the viewer into sharing the Doctor's irrational fantasy, just like the sounds at the end of the universe that also resembled nothing natural. Just like his companions at this point, you were seeing and hearing things that weren't there.

 

[PorthosShadow]

Stop giving details about episodes that haven't aired yet.

He didn't give anything away except for the title and the basic premise of the episode that's been shown in the trailer. Some people really need to re-evaluate what constitutes a "spoiler".

 

[PorthosShadow]

Can we just talk about what an amazing dress Clara wore on her date? I loved that dress so much.

I've been spending too much time on Facebook. I read that and started looking for the Like button.

Jenna Coleman would have to try really hard to look bad in anything

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Can we just talk about what an amazing dress Clara wore on her date? I loved that dress so much.

I've been spending too much time on Facebook. I read that and started looking for the Like button.

Jenna Coleman would have to try really hard to look bad in anything

True, there's some pictures from the publicity tour she did with Capaldi where she looks particularly stunning.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Stop giving details about episodes that haven't aired yet.

He didn't give anything away except for the title and the basic premise of the episode that's been shown in the trailer. Some people really need to re-evaluate what constitutes a "spoiler".

That's not the point. This is a discussion about Listen. It's unfair and an little obnoxious to without warning suddenly start talking about the next episode which hasn't aired.

 

[Gov Kodos]

And if that was a Gallifreyan barn... why was there not a single hint of technology in it? Just for the sake of a 30 second fake out? They have barns full of hay on Gallifrey?

Why not? They have barns full of hay in the US, don't they? Just because you have a certain standard of technology doesn't mean that it's ubiquitous. We have houses with all kinds of modern gadgets next to barns full of hay. Why shouldn't the Timelords?

And since the couple looking after the Doctor were dressed in an old-fashioned way, maybe this was some sort of eccentric theme house, anyway. This is a planet with a Death Zone and hermits living in the mountains (and behind the Doctor's house) so everything's possible, really.

We also saw folks living out of the Citadel who chose to eschew the high tech civilization there in 'The Invasion of Time'. Why shouldn't some folks like the back to basics life once in a while?

 

[DWF]

And if that was a Gallifreyan barn... why was there not a single hint of technology in it? Just for the sake of a 30 second fake out? They have barns full of hay on Gallifrey?

Why not? They have barns full of hay in the US, don't they? Just because you have a certain standard of technology doesn't mean that it's ubiquitous. We have houses with all kinds of modern gadgets next to barns full of hay. Why shouldn't the Timelords?

And since the couple looking after the Doctor were dressed in an old-fashioned way, maybe this was some sort of eccentric theme house, anyway. This is a planet with a Death Zone and hermits living in the mountains (and behind the Doctor's house) so everything's possible, really.

We also saw folks living out of the Citadel who chose to eschew the high tech civilization there in 'The Invasion of Time'. Why shouldn't some folks like the back to basics life once in a while?

Rodan had food pills in that story and the TARDIS had a food machine first seen in The Daleks, somehow I doubt that thte Doctor's rich parents were simple farmers. And the banr in The Day Of The Doctor was in a desert, I can't imagine what they'd be farming out in the desert.