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DS9 on blu ray?

CBS KNOW we want DS9 - and what's more, THEY want it too. A lot of the execs there are so passionate about Star Trek, it's crazy.
So basically CBS has come a long way since the story Doug Drexler told of the CBS exec that hated Star Trek with a passion and called for the bulldozing of sets, props, etc.
At the time, I'm not sure Drexler was the most impartial judge of CBS.
 
Right now The Animated Series is probably CBS' cheapest option for Blu-Ray after TNG, as the entire series was Remastered in HD back in 2006 for the DVD release. But at the same time there is also the question of whether enough people will buy a cartoon on Blu-Ray. When we look to other cartoons from the time, really we only see Charlie Brown with the Thanksgiving/Halloween/Christmas specials (and the episode from "This Is America, Charlie Brown"), and since those were released, no other cartoons have received Blu-Ray treatment (not even the TIA series got Blu-Ray---only DVD even though cartoons in copyright from the pre-1990 era are generally rescanned into HD for DVD). Most likely it is due to people not being able to see that much difference visually in a cartoon of that era on SD DVD and HD Blu-Ray.

But with HD in General, we are in a time that is reminiscent of the switch-over from black-and-white for stations. Just like in the 60's if you had a show in color, the stations would pay more for that show, even if it was a re-run, than a show that was in black-and-white (if it got picked up for re-runs at all), so today stations will pay more for HD than they will for SD. And with DS9 and Voyager in SD it is going to become increasingly difficult for CBS to sell the shows in SD, even if they do a cheap upconversion of just dubbing the episodes from the SD masters to HD tapes.
 
CBS are very cleverly playing themselves off against the fans. I have to hand it to them on that score.

"We really want to remaster DS9, but it's all about the finances, so go and buy the TNG Blu-rays". . .blah blah blah.

It's just pure and simple blackmail. As I said to Bill from TDB on Facebook, if DS9 is remastered, CBS will have to do it out of love for the show, and because it wants to keep the source material in the best shape for future generations, and to hell with the financial cost. Anything they get back via Blu sales and selling to TV/Streaming will be a bonus.

Now, you'd think that with all of CBS' pro DS9 bleating, and taking the above in to account, that it would have already green lit the project for an initial cost of say $20m, which is small change to a company like CBS. It knows full well that TNG on Blu will likely never make it's costs back regardless of sales, and yet it's making all these comments about how much it wants to give DS9 the treatment.

CBS, just STFU and do it.

A few points.

1) Take it from someone who works in home video sales. When a company says, "We'd like to do project A, but we need to see X number of sales from project B," it's probably true.

2) CBS is a business, not a charity. If they aren't getting a return on their investment from a project, they probably aren't going to continue it, even if they're making money hand over fist elsewhere.

3) A poorly worded piece of ad copy on social media that was later clarified, and a few off-hand comments made by individuals about Deep Space Nine, do not equal a lot of "pro DS9 bleating."

Having said all that, to paraphrase General Buck Turgidson, I'd hate to judge before all the facts are in. Let's see what happens in the next 2-3 years first. After the success of the original series on Blu-Ray, even The Next Generation wasn't approved overnight.
 
Right now The Animated Series is probably CBS' cheapest option for Blu-Ray after TNG, as the entire series was Remastered in HD back in 2006 for the DVD release.

It was a short series. I wonder why they didn't just throw it in as a bonus disc with TOS-R?
 
Having said all that, to paraphrase General Buck Turgidson, I'd hate to judge before all the facts are in. Let's see what happens in the next 2-3 years first. After the success of the original series on Blu-Ray, even The Next Generation wasn't approved overnight.

How many people will have lost interest in DS9 on Blu-ray in 2-3 years time?

The original fans of the show aren't getting any younger. Besides, Blu-ray could well be on the way out. In 3 years time, I see 4K Bluy-ray being where Blu-ray was about 6 or 7 years ago.
 
If you say so. I don't think enough people will have 4K televisions in three years for 4K Blu-Ray to have much of an impact.

Also, if people have interest in DS9 on Blu-Ray now, 21 years after the show premiered on television, they'll probably still have an interest 23, 24, and 25 years down the line.
 
Having said all that, to paraphrase General Buck Turgidson, I'd hate to judge before all the facts are in. Let's see what happens in the next 2-3 years first. After the success of the original series on Blu-Ray, even The Next Generation wasn't approved overnight.

How many people will have lost interest in DS9 on Blu-ray in 2-3 years time?

The original fans of the show aren't getting any younger. Besides, Blu-ray could well be on the way out. In 3 years time, I see 4K Bluy-ray being where Blu-ray was about 6 or 7 years ago.

Nah. HDTVs have just recently gotten prevalent enough for some stations to dump their SD formatted broadcasts. People aren't going to spend another couple of thousand bucks on a totally new TV when their current one works just fine and there's only a couple of token 4K options.

That was the mistake with 3DTV - well, one of the mistakes. There were many. It was too soon.

Physical media is dying, across the board. If Net Neutrality doesn't kill streaming, it's the wave of the future.
 
Right now The Animated Series is probably CBS' cheapest option for Blu-Ray after TNG, as the entire series was Remastered in HD back in 2006 for the DVD release.

It was a short series. I wonder why they didn't just throw it in as a bonus disc with TOS-R?

Yeah 11 hours of content on an extra disc.

Releasing TAS as a bonus feature would be a bad idea. Why include something for free when people will pay for it? ;)
 
CBS KNOW we want DS9 - and what's more, THEY want it too. A lot of the execs there are so passionate about Star Trek, it's crazy. This is now purely a logistical and financial issue.
Personally, I'd be willing to pre-order the entire series directly from CBS (if the price is $450 or less) if they'd greenlight the project and give us a reasonable timeframe for completion.

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Hell, if it was going to be a long-term but definitely-happening thing I'd be willing to make installment payments were that an option.

I see no reason why I'd be less interested 2-3 years down the line.
 
Hell, if it was going to be a long-term but definitely-happening thing I'd be willing to make installment payments were that an option.

I see no reason why I'd be less interested 2-3 years down the line.

The hard core fans will always be interested. Problem is that it will take more than the hard core fans to make it profitable unless you're willing to pay two, three, four hundred dollars a season.
 
CBS KNOW we want DS9 - and what's more, THEY want it too. A lot of the execs there are so passionate about Star Trek, it's crazy. This is now purely a logistical and financial issue.
Personally, I'd be willing to pre-order the entire series directly from CBS (if the price is $450 or less) if they'd greenlight the project and give us a reasonable timeframe for completion.

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+1 !!!
 
Nah. HDTVs have just recently gotten prevalent enough for some stations to dump their SD formatted broadcasts. People aren't going to spend another couple of thousand bucks on a totally new TV when their current one works just fine and there's only a couple of token 4K options.

Plus 4K only makes sense for very large screens above 50". On a 42" you must have an eye quality way above 100% to see a difference between 1080p or 4k. I have 130% eye quality and sit 4 meters away from my 42" (Panasonic Plasma) and with 1080p I have to concentrate to see the pixels.

I doubt 4k will be successfull. Only if 4k 50" are so cheap you can by them for 200-300 bucks in the supermarket.
 
CBS KNOW we want DS9 - and what's more, THEY want it too. A lot of the execs there are so passionate about Star Trek, it's crazy. This is now purely a logistical and financial issue.
Personally, I'd be willing to pre-order the entire series directly from CBS (if the price is $450 or less) if they'd greenlight the project and give us a reasonable timeframe for completion.

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+1 !!!

Like I already suggested: CBS should do a Kickstarter like pre-order system. If enough people pre-order DS9, they produce it.
 
Nah. HDTVs have just recently gotten prevalent enough for some stations to dump their SD formatted broadcasts. People aren't going to spend another couple of thousand bucks on a totally new TV when their current one works just fine and there's only a couple of token 4K options.

Plus 4K only makes sense for very large screens above 50". On a 42" you must have an eye quality way above 100% to see a difference between 1080p or 4k. I have 130% eye quality and sit 4 meters away from my 42" (Panasonic Plasma) and with 1080p I have to concentrate to see the pixels.

I doubt 4k will be successfull. Only if 4k 50" are so cheap you can by them for 200-300 bucks in the supermarket.

This.

4K is a scam folks. TV manufacturers trying to stall until the next generation of LCDs (AMOLEDS or something) becme more affordable.
 
Having said all that, to paraphrase General Buck Turgidson, I'd hate to judge before all the facts are in. Let's see what happens in the next 2-3 years first. After the success of the original series on Blu-Ray, even The Next Generation wasn't approved overnight.

How many people will have lost interest in DS9 on Blu-ray in 2-3 years time?

The original fans of the show aren't getting any younger. Besides, Blu-ray could well be on the way out. In 3 years time, I see 4K Bluy-ray being where Blu-ray was about 6 or 7 years ago.

Nah. HDTVs have just recently gotten prevalent enough for some stations to dump their SD formatted broadcasts. People aren't going to spend another couple of thousand bucks on a totally new TV when their current one works just fine and there's only a couple of token 4K options.

That was the mistake with 3DTV - well, one of the mistakes. There were many. It was too soon.

Physical media is dying, across the board. If Net Neutrality doesn't kill streaming, it's the wave of the future.

The general public has never wanted 3D whenever it's been pushed on them in various guises. 3D TVs were just another attempt at a failed technology which no one wants. It does rather show that manufacturers have run out of ideas to wring more money from consumers.

50" is considered pretty much entry level now. I picked up an LG 50" 1080p plasma a few months ago, not 3D/Smart, for £450. Very nice set. A few years ago, would've cost double. 50" 4K sets are already down to under £1000. 6 months ago, they were £2.5k How much in a few years time?

If DS9 is remastered, but CBS don't start until say 2016, will I really care about buying season 7 on Blu-ray around 2020 or maybe even beyond, especially if by then 4k has become the norm? Maybe, but in all likelihood, not.
 
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