Possibly.
But, I found it amusing given the topic.
And there can be workarounds as we Trek fans supposedly too. And like interconnectivity. Or something.
Your opinion on SNWs Gorn
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But, I found it amusing given the topic.
And there can be workarounds as we Trek fans supposedly too. And like interconnectivity. Or something.
Perhaps unintentional. Certainly serendipitous.
How likely is it that the writer would not have seen at least a few episodes of MASH? It was a tremendously popular show for a decade in its first run and continues being broadcast even now. And that was in the era when the three networks were it, not a million cable or streaming channels.
Before the reveal, I was excited to see gorn portrayed. I really hoped they would've put actors in a rubber mask and said that's just the way gorn look, but the new look is fine.
What I am disappointed with is the way SNW treats them monsters, it really goes against the message of Arena. Sure, one could argue that Kirk will be the first human to have empathy for gorn and realise they're also an intelligent spacefaring species, but the storytelling in SNW doesn't seem to want us to think the gorn have personhood and value like that. A character doesn't need to say "hey, ever stop to think gorn might have lives and culture like us?", but just a shot of seeing a gorn in their day-to-day life or something, would let us know the show and its creators think of gorn as more than monsters.
For a monster adversary, they could've just gone with a different name for the species.
What I am disappointed with is the way SNW treats them monsters, it really goes against the message of Arena. Sure, one could argue that Kirk will be the first human to have empathy for gorn and realise they're also an intelligent spacefaring species, but the storytelling in SNW doesn't seem to want us to think the gorn have personhood and value like that. A character doesn't need to say "hey, ever stop to think gorn might have lives and culture like us?", but just a shot of seeing a gorn in their day-to-day life or something, would let us know the show and its creators think of gorn as more than monsters.
For a monster adversary, they could've just gone with a different name for the species.
Of course the Gorn have personhood.
And the main characters view them as monsters.
I hope we get a conclusion that satisfies both.
And the main characters view them as monsters.
I hope we get a conclusion that satisfies both.
I think part of the build up in SNW is what becomes the conclusion we see in "Arena". That they were viewed as monsters (to the point of Kirk feeling like Pike would to hunt them down and destroy them) with Kirk eventually coming to a realization that the Gorn were probably defending their area of space, like anyone would do.
The message of "Arena" is not that the Gorn are okay folks like us. The Metron specifically says that their captain would not have shown mercy - this after slaughtering women and children in a sneak attack on Cestus III.
In fact, the Gorn in "Arena" were horrible. The show was not about making peace with them.
Not a fan at all. Just another alien turned into a fear-inducing killing machine. It's boring.
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't expecting TOS Gorn but I sure wish they had taken the TOS Gorn and worked with it from there instead of turning them into what is essentially an entirely new species and a not very original one at that.
They're the same picture.
I mean..... they're a big, green lizard with 2 eyes, 4 limbs, and sharp teeth.
SNW gave us a big, green lizard with 2 eyes, 4 limbs, sharp teeth..... but they added a tail? Ohhhh noes.....!
They're fine.
Perhapssss. we will ssseee that in future epissssodessss when they ssssspeak.
Are we watching the same two shows here? Am I in the Twilight Zone? SNW Gorn are very much different from what we see in Arena.
Big mean lizards who are at odds with our heroes. Aggressively territorial. Uses subterfuge to draw in opponents for the kill. Close enough for Star Trek.
How so?
They’re a xenomorph rip-off.
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