Also Torchwood was only invented for new who. It never existed in old Who the proper Who LOL
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Also Torchwood was only invented for new who. It never existed in old Who the proper Who LOL
True, but thanks to Big Finish, it now retroactively is introduced into the Seventh Doctor's era, specifically during RTD's Damaged Goods. Maybe not the organization itself, but the mention is there.
That's a wonderful theory.
That also seems to fit why Eric slowly went insane as the years went on, he was an early incarnation of The Master.
Since Torchwood recruited Jake Harkness not too long after being created, he would research the Doctor as best he can and likely figure out which version was which and be able to tell that the Third Doctor is definitely earlier than his own Ninth Doctor, as the Third Doctor is talking about Time Lords I the present tense, and Daleks are something annoying, while with Jake's Doctor...the Time Lords were gone and the Daleks were suppose to be wiped out.
So if Torchwood makes a move against a Doctor prior to Jake's Doctor, than time will go into a paradox state and probably implode. (That's bad, right?) Torchwood would only really move on the Tenth Doctor, as that one was a clear an present danger to the crown...having upset both Victoria and Elizabeth I (Elizabeth II seems fine with the Doctor though, and Elizabeth X is a friend of the Doctor).
So if Torchwood makes a move against a Doctor prior to Jake's Doctor, than time will go into a paradox state and probably implode. (That's bad, right?) Torchwood would only really move on the Tenth Doctor, as that one was a clear an present danger to the crown...having upset both Victoria and Elizabeth I (Elizabeth II seems fine with the Doctor though, and Elizabeth X is a friend of the Doctor).
Still, it would be cool if they did some kind of flashback Torchwood episode where we saw 1970s Jack working with UNIT. There was a lot of cool stuff that Torchwood could have done had RTD not run it into the ground with "Miracle Day."
Now that's timey-wimey!
Still, it would be cool if they did some kind of flashback Torchwood episode where we saw 1970s Jack working with UNIT. There was a lot of cool stuff that Torchwood could have done had RTD not run it into the ground with "Miracle Day."
OK I've never seen Miracle Day so why did that kill Torchwood?
Still, it would be cool if they did some kind of flashback Torchwood episode where we saw 1970s Jack working with UNIT. There was a lot of cool stuff that Torchwood could have done had RTD not run it into the ground with "Miracle Day."
OK I've never seen Miracle Day so why did that kill Torchwood?
Miracle Day isn't really held in high esteem by most fandom, and indeed the ratings weren't really stellar, thus explaining why we never got anymore onscreen Torchwood since, either by the BBC or Starz.
Still, it would be cool if they did some kind of flashback Torchwood episode where we saw 1970s Jack working with UNIT. There was a lot of cool stuff that Torchwood could have done had RTD not run it into the ground with "Miracle Day."
That would be cool.
About Miracle day ruining Torchwood, I'd say it's slightly strong but not really wrong.
Miracle day wasn't that good but that's not the real problem.
It was such a drastic worldwide change that even a non canon show like Dr. Who can't explain it as anything other than an alternate dimension or parallel universe with characters like Jack and the snooty woman he was with.
Plus, it really wasn't any good to sit through the 9 episode buildup to a terrible disappointment at the end with no resolution to the problems we'd been bombarded with.
Like I said, there is a mention of Torchwood in Damaged Goods, a Seventh Doctor audio story. So technically, thats their first, chronologically speaking, reference to the organization.
But yeah, I totally want a Forge/UNIT/Torchwood crossover, too. Make it happen!
But yeah, I totally want a Forge/UNIT/Torchwood crossover, too. Make it happen!
The universe has basically been created specifically (by Amy in 'The Big Bang') purely for the Doctor to have adventures in. That's also why nothing has to make sense, just so long as something is happening to the Doctor at any given moment.
Actually, what happened in The Big Bang is that the universe was rebooted. Not the same thing - it means that the universe now exists without the cracks in time that plagued it before the reboot.
That the Time Lords can create their own cracks when they need to and they look just like the Cracks in series 5. They even used one to give the Doctor some handy dandy regenerations..
Time is a funky thing for the Doctor. He can run into things he's fixed before he fixed them. And if can run across things he's fixed or caused and not have done that yet. The Eleventh Doctor era is full of things the Doctor's has to deal with that are his fault or a reaction to him doing something in his own future. The Cracks, likely Prisoner Zero, his war with the Silence...even River Song...are all thing he would be responsible for directly or indirectly, and have to deal with them long before he caused whatever it was to happen. Also all of it ties to his last "centuries" on Trenzalor, that last things he did.
The Twelfth Doctor is dealing with things causes by the Eleventh and possibly thing he will do later on as well (Gallifrey and Missy)...or he is going to cause some of his own problems from his "youth" (potentially the Daleks).
The Twelfth Doctor is dealing with things causes by the Eleventh and possibly thing he will do later on as well (Gallifrey and Missy)...or he is going to cause some of his own problems from his "youth" (potentially the Daleks).
OK weird theory but I think the very first Cyberman we see in "Rise Of The Cybermen" wasn't in fact created by Cybus Industries. It was an actual Cyberman from our universe..
I don't know if this is a pet theory as much as an observation. I guess it is.
Watching the early Pertwee stories and realizing that for the first two regenerations they went to lengths to make the costume seem like it was the same person, but with a different personality.
Hartnell was dressed in a kind of Edwardian "stroller"--semiformal morning dress. Checked trousers, light colored waistcoat, suit length jacket, wing collar, and that weird long bowtie that no one wears anymore. In the later episodes, he has a handkerchief out of one of his jacket pockets. Wears ring(s) and, on occasion a black cape.
Troughton keeps the checked trousers and jacket but they're baggy and rumpled instead of prim and proper. The collar isn't a wing collar, but it isn't a standard modern collar either. Goes to a conventional bowtie. He does ditch the waistcoat. Still a vaguely Edwardian look, but much more unkempt. I'd have sworn I've seen him wearing at least a pinkie ring, but I can't find it in any photos online (there are some color publicity stills from his first story, where he's wearing Hartnell's ring, but that's another thing).
For Pertwee we start out with an Edwardian look, only much flashier and more dapper. Short black jacket--this time velvet. In the early episodes he wears a dark long bowtie similar to Hartnell's. No vest, like Troughton. He definitely wears ring(s). We get black trousers instead of plaid/checked but the black cape is back.
After the first season or so, we start seeing the other colored smoking jackets and the plaid cape and a variety of (or even no) neckwear, which opens the door for Baker's brown pallet and multicolored scarf. Even so, he wears a patterned trouser and after the first season moves to a wing collar neckcloth and waistcoat (albeit with more of a Victorian coat and of course the scarf and hat).
Watching the early Pertwee stories and realizing that for the first two regenerations they went to lengths to make the costume seem like it was the same person, but with a different personality.
Hartnell was dressed in a kind of Edwardian "stroller"--semiformal morning dress. Checked trousers, light colored waistcoat, suit length jacket, wing collar, and that weird long bowtie that no one wears anymore. In the later episodes, he has a handkerchief out of one of his jacket pockets. Wears ring(s) and, on occasion a black cape.
Troughton keeps the checked trousers and jacket but they're baggy and rumpled instead of prim and proper. The collar isn't a wing collar, but it isn't a standard modern collar either. Goes to a conventional bowtie. He does ditch the waistcoat. Still a vaguely Edwardian look, but much more unkempt. I'd have sworn I've seen him wearing at least a pinkie ring, but I can't find it in any photos online (there are some color publicity stills from his first story, where he's wearing Hartnell's ring, but that's another thing).
For Pertwee we start out with an Edwardian look, only much flashier and more dapper. Short black jacket--this time velvet. In the early episodes he wears a dark long bowtie similar to Hartnell's. No vest, like Troughton. He definitely wears ring(s). We get black trousers instead of plaid/checked but the black cape is back.
After the first season or so, we start seeing the other colored smoking jackets and the plaid cape and a variety of (or even no) neckwear, which opens the door for Baker's brown pallet and multicolored scarf. Even so, he wears a patterned trouser and after the first season moves to a wing collar neckcloth and waistcoat (albeit with more of a Victorian coat and of course the scarf and hat).
That rather undermines the point of the "Destiny Trap" paradox of the Silence creating the very cracks in time that the Time Lords were using to come back to the universe, in the process of trying to stop that very thing.
I know but hey it was on screen and it happened. Make of it what you will. The crack did look just like Amy's crack (in her room and series 5)
I've run into this theory before (somewhere) and to me, it's the only thing that makes any sense out of that whole debacle!
After TFD he escapes (again) and goes on to the events in the Raani story. And for some reason boasts about being indestructible.
