Your favourite pet theories of your own
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SPOILER ALERT!!! If you haven't seen Last Of The Time Lords, The Wedding Of River Song, Face The Raven, Hell Bent or Twice Upon A Time...
DON'T READ THIS POST!!!
I have a theory all the anti Chibnall, anti The Timeless Children people are going to love. I know because I'm one of them and I LOVE IT. It makes me VERY HAPPY.
At the end of Hell Bent, Clara told Ashildr "my death is a fixed point." Here's my theory: Clara is still flying around in that TARDIS she was in at the end of Hell Bent and hasn't gone back to Trap Street, yet. The Testimony glass avatar we saw of her in Twice Upon A Time was from when she died in Face The Raven. When Clara finally goes back to Trap Street and dies like she's supposed to it will retcon everything under Chris Chibnall as showrunner out of existence. Everything except Jodie Whittaker's Doctor and what caused her to regenerate. It'd be like The Wedding Of River Song. After the Doctor and River finally touch and history continued on like it was supposed to. Or like the year that never was in The Last Of The Time Lords. In the Who universe only the Doctor, the Master and the companions of the Jodie Whittaker Doctor would remember everything. Here in the real world the fans, the people that work on Doctor Who and Chris Chibnall would remember.
DON'T READ THIS POST!!!
I have a theory all the anti Chibnall, anti The Timeless Children people are going to love. I know because I'm one of them and I LOVE IT. It makes me VERY HAPPY.
At the end of Hell Bent, Clara told Ashildr "my death is a fixed point." Here's my theory: Clara is still flying around in that TARDIS she was in at the end of Hell Bent and hasn't gone back to Trap Street, yet. The Testimony glass avatar we saw of her in Twice Upon A Time was from when she died in Face The Raven. When Clara finally goes back to Trap Street and dies like she's supposed to it will retcon everything under Chris Chibnall as showrunner out of existence. Everything except Jodie Whittaker's Doctor and what caused her to regenerate. It'd be like The Wedding Of River Song. After the Doctor and River finally touch and history continued on like it was supposed to. Or like the year that never was in The Last Of The Time Lords. In the Who universe only the Doctor, the Master and the companions of the Jodie Whittaker Doctor would remember everything. Here in the real world the fans, the people that work on Doctor Who and Chris Chibnall would remember.
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SPOILER ALERT!!! If you haven't seen Last Of The Time Lords, The Wedding Of River Song, Face The Raven, Hell Bent or Twice Upon A Time...
DON'T READ THIS POST!!!
I have a theory all the anti Chibnall, anti The Timeless Children people are going to love. I know because I'm one of them and I LOVE IT. It makes me VERY HAPPY.
I love this but I'm more of a lover of the idea that The Timeless Child is canon and henceforth actual so there will be no dicking around with that please. 13 is the Timeless Child and also The Doctor.
The Jo Martin Doctor is an in between Doctor from 8th Doctor before she became 9
Nothing said supports this theory
I might say Toby’s Dream Doctor got shunted into a body and became the Valeyard.
Henceforth this thread. This is for posting our own pet theories and fun theories of our own
That's a neat idea
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New pet theories:
So, to recap: After War Games, the Second bigenerated into the Second Doctor who worked for the CIA for an undisclosed time (while working out his escape no doubt), and the Third Doctor who was exiled to Earth and was working for UNIT for a while. Whether that Second Doctor ever reunited retroactively into the Third Doctor once his role was done, or his whereabouts since that bigeneration are purposely unknown (perhaps explaining even further the Third Doctor's actual death in The Planet of the Spiders?) remains to be seen. A potential further theory I have but is still undercooked is, he simply regenerated out of spite into the Ruth Doctor, with the sole intent on kicking the Time Lords' asses, was then captured by the Time Lords (after Fugitive, obviously) and was forced to retrogenerate into the Second Doctor so they could finally unite him retroactively into the Third...but I'm still unsure about that.
The bio-regeneration of the Doctor is indeed a myth, because it never happened the way it happened in The Giggle because of the Toymaker's meddling, who basically rewrote his own history by "erasing" his past experiences with the Doctor (all comics and audios, including The Nightmate Fair were undone) so he could face the Doctor in a more upstanding, superior position. Originally he was defeated, seemingly once and for all in The Magic Mousetrap, when the Fenric helped him have a final revenge on the Doctor only to be defeated by the Seventh Doctor. So when he was freed due to the Fourteenth's salt thing in The Wild Blue Yonder, he decides to REALLY mess with the Doctor and in a major way (maybe even mess with his own personal timeline by merging various multiverses? another pet theory!) Why not erase The Celestial Toymaker events you ask? Well, arguably cause thats when the Toymaker encountered the TARDIS, and it was through the TARDIS that he was able to escape his predicament (and also why he chose 2023 at the time and placement of his vengeance instead of any other time - that's when the Fourteenth Doctor was at, last). If the Toymaker never encountered the Doctor's TARDIS on any form, he'd never play games with the Doctor ever - an ontological paradox too big even for him.
The bio-regeneration of the Doctor is indeed a myth, because it never happened the way it happened in The Giggle because, the last time it happened and WE saw it, it happened because of the Time Lords. When you ask? But, when he was "executed" as the Second Doctor, of course. Big Finish's own Second Doctor POST-WAR GAMES range postulates this theory, which the Second Doctor running errands as an agent of the CIA while the Doctor is off on Earth having adventures. This feels very familar to what we saw last Sunday doesn't it? Indeed, its almost as if its identical, and one could make the argument that the Second Doctor in all anniversary specials since his departure from the show, have been showcases of a bi-regenerated Second Doctor, who kept on his body but under the provision of working for the Time Lords while his biregenerated body was on Earth, exiled and with no use of his own TARDIS. That also means that the Time Lords were able to replicate the Doctor's TARDIS, too? BUT HOW ARE THE TIME LORDS CAPABLE OF SUCH THINGS?! Well... As we know, the Time Lords could contain and rewrite histories around paradoxes well, due to to REASONS, and the Doctor post-Time War was never skilled enough to do. So overseeing a biregeneration is nothing compared to this.
The bio-regeneration of the Doctor is indeed a myth, because it never happened the way it happened in The Giggle because, the last time it happened and WE saw it, it happened because of the Time Lords. When you ask? But, when he was "executed" as the Second Doctor, of course. Big Finish's own Second Doctor POST-WAR GAMES range postulates this theory, which the Second Doctor running errands as an agent of the CIA while the Doctor is off on Earth having adventures. This feels very familar to what we saw last Sunday doesn't it? Indeed, its almost as if its identical, and one could make the argument that the Second Doctor in all anniversary specials since his departure from the show, have been showcases of a bi-regenerated Second Doctor, who kept on his body but under the provision of working for the Time Lords while his biregenerated body was on Earth, exiled and with no use of his own TARDIS. That also means that the Time Lords were able to replicate the Doctor's TARDIS, too? BUT HOW ARE THE TIME LORDS CAPABLE OF SUCH THINGS?! Well... As we know, the Time Lords could contain and rewrite histories around paradoxes well, due to to REASONS, and the Doctor post-Time War was never skilled enough to do. So overseeing a biregeneration is nothing compared to this.
So, to recap: After War Games, the Second bigenerated into the Second Doctor who worked for the CIA for an undisclosed time (while working out his escape no doubt), and the Third Doctor who was exiled to Earth and was working for UNIT for a while. Whether that Second Doctor ever reunited retroactively into the Third Doctor once his role was done, or his whereabouts since that bigeneration are purposely unknown (perhaps explaining even further the Third Doctor's actual death in The Planet of the Spiders?) remains to be seen. A potential further theory I have but is still undercooked is, he simply regenerated out of spite into the Ruth Doctor, with the sole intent on kicking the Time Lords' asses, was then captured by the Time Lords (after Fugitive, obviously) and was forced to retrogenerate into the Second Doctor so they could finally unite him retroactively into the Third...but I'm still unsure about that.
I'm hoping so, but given the other elements ("canon being ruptured", the "memory tardis" segments and that phrase is 99% what the Toymaker was showing in his eponymous story from 1965, etc) that weren't really answered, how many seasons will pass before this is addressed? For all we know or not, the biregeneration is part of the Toymaker's trickery, or another high-up villain is going after the Doctor that also has the capability of mindwarping people, since that easily explains everything. oh, I first assumed "Jodie->Ncuti" with Tennant "2" being an induced dream. Might still be for all anyone knows, and the memory
Ruth Doctor - I love the fan theory that she is the Rani, who conspired with the Master. She hates the Doctor as well and loves diddling with biochemistry (and electronics, partially for the reason of the former), he wants power, both conspired to meddle with the Doctor's mind and created a partial fiction (from the Doctor's perspective, not the universe in which the Doctor is in).
I still like the idea it's just the Master fiddling with the Matrix, but after reading the Rani/Master duo, that led to more thoughts that also render Ruth's less contentious and with easier explanation (which would also directly canonize 6B, but given the lack of consistency in televised canonicity, I find it hard-pressed to give a dirtyword, as later showrunners will alter or change things again. But that's 0.2 to 50 centuries from now anyhow... which reminds, when Garibaldi spits "horsehockey" at someone, how can that gave more weight to it than 99% of modern shows' use of actual pottymouth? )
