I think the Cybus Cybermen ARE the original Cybermen.
They simply invaded Mondas from Pete's World and then spread to the rest of our universe from there.
Cybus Cybermen and Classic Cybermen are the same.
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I think the Cybus Cybermen ARE the original Cybermen.
They simply invaded Mondas from Pete's World and then spread to the rest of our universe from there.
Cybus Cybermen and Classic Cybermen are the same.
I like it too, but I like "Spare Parts" more.
Spare Parts is Big Finish's origin of the Cybermen story, with the 5th Doctor and Nyssa.
Why?
Yeah, its a must-listen.
Which brings me an idea for a thread...
I've listened to some of the audios but I never much cared for "Spare Parts." But then, I don't really like any of the audios with the Cybermen or Daleks. In audio format, their grating voices get old real fast!
Considering how much Patrick Troughton & William Hartnell look like each other, I sometimes wonder if the original intent was that Troughton was playing a rejuvenated version of the Doctor and this was what the Hartnell Doctor was supposed to have looked & acted like back before he got old & crotchety. (Hey, Troughton looks a lot more like Hartnell than many of the new Star Trek actors look like their classic counterparts.)
Considering how much Patrick Troughton & William Hartnell look like each other, I sometimes wonder if the original intent was that Troughton was playing a rejuvenated version of the Doctor and this was what the Hartnell Doctor was supposed to have looked & acted like back before he got old & crotchety. (Hey, Troughton looks a lot more like Hartnell than many of the new Star Trek actors look like their classic counterparts.)
I prefer to think that Pete's World simply IS Mondas.
That works too. But it's an earlier point in time then....
But hang on wasn't Mondas in our universe?
Of course it was. Its a twin planet to Earth.
Pete's World simply cannot be Mondas. The Cybermen were a slow evolution in Mondas, whereas in Pete's World they were the creation of a mad scientist. In short, Pete's World had a Davros for Cybermen.
It could have crossed over from one 'verse to another. It's happened before, hasn't it?
I mean, having Pete's World actually be Mondas would probably render Spare Parts impossible, but there may be ways around that.
That's not a 'sometimes wonder' - that was exactly the intention at the time, no question. It was not called a 'regeneration' at the time, it was called a 'rejuvenation', and the intention was that Troughton was literally a younger Hartnell, who over time would grow older into Hartnell again. The new face, new personality thing didn't come in until after the fact. At the time, Troughton was supposed to literally be the exact same version of the Doctor as Hartnell, just younger.
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I would say it was the other way around. Because the surviving publicity shots have the blue ring on Troughton's ring finger while Hartnell wore it on his middle or index finger. I know this because I happen to have accidentally bought a ring for a pirate costume that is very close to the Hartnell ring and if won't fit on the finger Hartnell wore it on, but it fits fine on my ring finger.
Anyways, the one I just came up with was that the reason the Time Lords forced a regeneration at the end of the War Games is that "natural" regenerations are inherently dangerous and unstable. Most Time Lords go back to Gallifrey to regenerate the way most mothers give birth in a hospital in the Western world.
Now 3 to 4 was successful because an insanely powerful Time Lord, the Doctor's old mentor, [midwifed] his regeneration.
Anyways, the one I just came up with was that the reason the Time Lords forced a regeneration at the end of the War Games is that "natural" regenerations are inherently dangerous and unstable. Most Time Lords go back to Gallifrey to regenerate the way most mothers give birth in a hospital in the Western world.
Now 3 to 4 was successful because an insanely powerful Time Lord, the Doctor's old mentor, [midwifed] his regeneration.
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That would fit with why the First Doctor wanted to regenerate in the TARDIS. Maybe it contains Gallifrey's atmosphere or something that naturally helps the transformation take place without issues - at least, not the kind Five and Eight had to deal with, as they were "born" outside the TARDIS.
Oh hell, I don't know - I'm just regurgitating what I've been told by other people on this board.
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Chromosomes. This is my theory/explanation for why all the Doctor's incarnations have been male, so far. If you were born male on Gallifrey, then most or all of your regenerations will be male. If you were born female on Gallifrey, then most or all of your regenerations will be female. Before you start reminding me of what Missy said to Clara in "The Magician's Apprentice" about him being a little girl. I believe that was the lie.
Missy: Which one was the lie?
If it were true, then the incarnation line up would be like this:
1. Little Girl
2. Hartnell
3. Troughton
4. Pertwee
5. T. Baker
6. Davison
7. C. Baker
8. McCoy
9. McGann
10. Hurt
11. Eccleston
12. Tennant
13. Tennant duplicate created in "Journey's End"
14. Smith
15. Capaldi
Now, you see why I think Missy was lying about the Doctor being a little girl. If it were true, the Doctor would've needed a new set of regenerations at the end of "Journey's End" just to turn into the Matt Smith Doctor at the end of "The End Of Time", let alone to turn into the Peter Capaldi Doctor at the end of "Time Of The Doctor".
Missy: Which one was the lie?
If it were true, then the incarnation line up would be like this:
1. Little Girl
2. Hartnell
3. Troughton
4. Pertwee
5. T. Baker
6. Davison
7. C. Baker
8. McCoy
9. McGann
10. Hurt
11. Eccleston
12. Tennant
13. Tennant duplicate created in "Journey's End"
14. Smith
15. Capaldi
Now, you see why I think Missy was lying about the Doctor being a little girl. If it were true, the Doctor would've needed a new set of regenerations at the end of "Journey's End" just to turn into the Matt Smith Doctor at the end of "The End Of Time", let alone to turn into the Peter Capaldi Doctor at the end of "Time Of The Doctor".
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