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X-Men FC: Only $56 Million estimated for opening weekend.

^ Added an extra S, sorry.

Yeah, this is why I never got into the X-Men comics proper, simply because frankly, they themselves are all over the place. Erik is called Erik when he's 12 here, but see, his real name is Max, then Magnus. The comics change anything whenever it suits them. Perhaps that's why I'm just don't think the continuity is a big deal here. It's never mattered to them before, why should it now?

What would be weird if they change things from First Class in order to fit a sequel. And I was thinking, the way Emma Frost made the Russian general think she was getting it on with him- I wonder if Xavier learned that trick and is able to give people projections of him not being paralyzed? That would be neat.

Anyway I don't think consistency should be a negative to a potential viewer for First Class. Anyone have an updated numbers thru Wednesday?
 
KB24 said:
Yeah, this is why I never got into the X-Men comics proper, simply because frankly, they themselves are all over the place. Erik is called Erik when he's 12 here, but see, his real name is Max, then Magnus. The comics change anything whenever it suits them. Perhaps that's why I'm just don't think the continuity is a big deal here. It's never mattered to them before, why should it now?
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A. Different people make the movies than those who make the comics.

B. "More" is expected from movies in terms of consistency with other movies and it's series over comics where the writers, artists and such can change all of the time and they also span decades of time where any sense of consistency or continuity can be hard to maintain.
 
KB24 said:
^ Added an extra S, sorry.



What would be weird if they change things from First Class in order to fit a sequel. And I was thinking, the way Emma Frost made the Russian general think she was getting it on with him- I wonder if Xavier learned that trick and is able to give people projections of him not being paralyzed? That would be neat.
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In New Mutants back in the 80s, (Claremont durnig the Demon Bear Saga) Charles said that he could have up to 26 simultaneous conversations telepathically with different people within range of his projection.

If you had 26 mouths, do you think that you could talk to 26 people in the same room at the same time about 26 diverse involved and ongoing complicated subjects?

Inhuman barely scratches the surface.

It would probably take more energy to construct the illusion of the wheel chair. Therefore why bother? Especially if the addition of several wheelchairs means to his teleesperconferencing would mean that Chuck can only simulateously talk to 12 people at the same time.
 
^ The Studio are not unhappy with the take, they are banking on X Men (1) type WoM to push the gross and then to really make the sequel very popular. The oversea gross will see the film turn a tidy profit and lay the foundations for the 2nd film in this prequel trilogy to be a big hit.
 
od0_ital said:
HoneyBLilly said:
We all sound really whiny.
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No, y'all all sound like ya invested in the movie & are waitin' for your stock in it to rise!

And don't give me that whole "fans invest time & energy for years/decades" crap - I mean that anyone here put real money into the production of this film.

But, anyway, I have an idea of why this movie didn't do better - no tie-in toy line. Go to the store, ya see lots of Thor, Green Lantern & Captain America. Hell, they still have Iron Man 2 toys sellin' right now (and I know they are, 'cause they keep gettin' restocked, and never go on clearance).

But there isn't a single "First Class" action figure to be had, and that sucks.

Couldn't find any for "Origins" when it came out, either. But I got action figures based off the first three movies (only Nightcrawler, Bobby, Cyclops & Beast from the sequels, but everyon else from the first one).
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Probably because Marvel is now owned by Disney and Disney isn't going to give permission for product to promote a film by a rival studio. Especially with Marvel Studios being aware their films have to be better than those they licensed out to FOX.
 
I really think their forcing the viral word of mouth as practically their sole marketing campaign was a miss. You don't get big numbers and audiences that way, just niche. As opposed to when everyone sees and hears about it everywhere via big campaigns and merchandise and then it spreads. Look at the foreign posters, they are awesome compared to the big cardboard X just standing in our theaters.
 
StarTrek1701 said:
crookeddy said:
How can a movie that meets the studios pre-release expectations be considered a flop? :confused:
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They were expecting in the high 60's. They got mid 50's. And the take ain't gonna get better with Super 8 and Green Lantern coming back to back.
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People seem to think 20th Century Fox had unrealistic or too high expectations, but that's not the case. From Deadline Hollywood:

"Given that we are reinventing the X-Men franchise with a critically acclaimed director and top actors who are not really widely known to audiences, we're hoping to be somewhere around Batman Begins ($48.7M) and X-Men ($54.4M). That seems to be a good target area for us," said a Fox exec who was right on the money. The studio is hoping this prequel sticks around as moviegoers discover it.
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It looks like 20th Century Fox knew exactly the kind of film they were marketing and selling and audiences reacted toward it in a way they totally expected. As for Super 8, that's an untested property with no-name actors banking on the names of J.J. Abrams and Steven Spielberg. While Spielberg's name might get some butts into seats, I don't think First Class will have a difficult time hanging onto a very solid second place.

In regards to Green Lantern, I think that's very up-in-the-air right now. Early fan reaction to the initial trailer was pretty negative, but thanks to recent trailers and footage the tide has sort of turned reception-wise. People are starting to get excited for the film, but it does look really cheesy and that might turn some audiences off. Then again, I thought Thor looked cheesy, and that ended up being a pretty solid film that audiences embraced, so who knows. I definitely agree that Green Lantern is legitimate competition for First Class, but by then the film should have made some decent money.
 
My Dad said he wanted to see Green Lantern just because he likes Green Lantern, not because the trailer blew him away. I think it is full of a wash of CGI and Ryan Reynolds doing cool or pimpin' stuff. That isn't really what I think of when I think of GL. Maybe they should just stop casting guys who are more known for comedy in superhero movies? coughsethrogancough

The cast of the first X-Men weren't as big as they are now when they were cast. Some still aren't. Why do people want an instant star and bank instead of developing a fine roundtable cast? It's like when the sports teams literally buy the free agents for one season and end up losing to a team of hard working nobodies.
 
Green Lantern looks to me like a nearly perfect evocation of the character and "mythos" (I kind of hate that word) - I've been reading that book since the beginning. Reynolds is doing a great job here, if the clips released so far are any indication.

GL itself may simply not have the kind of mass appeal that more modern and somewhat more grounded characters have. Of course doing this concept properly involves a massive amount of CG.
 
Dennis said:
Supposedly around 160 million - about the same as Green Lantern and a bit more than Thor when all is said and done.
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Then they should be fine as long as it does not drop off the face of the earth. though the marketing hasn't hit me that for sure...
 
It's production budget may have been around $160 million but it's probably half that again in advertising.
 
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