No. The production budget was $130 million. The other $30 million is advertising.
X-Men FC: Only $56 Million estimated for opening weekend.
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No. The production budget was $130 million. The other $30 million is advertising.
For what it is worth, X-Men:First Class did not have too bad of a drop this weekend. From Box Office Mojo:
If only profitability was that simple for films.
It isn't getting a sequel with those numbers, it needs to make much more in the next few months. This movie is going to make less than Wolverine.
One thing to remember is that First class is thought of as a MUCH better film then Wolverine, and I suspect that there will be a another X-men movie as they are making good money and also good reviews, something they have not had since X2...
but here's the lesson, if they can make more money making a shitty film like Wolverine, than First Class, than the industry HAS to, for it's own solvency be inclined to furthermore ever after only produce shitty films.
Why the hell would they want to lose money?
But then there's our minds, the punters minds to consider that we expect a good film to make more money than a bad film, and a good film is therefore a massive faliure if it only makes as much money as a bad film because we have unfair expectations.
It does seem odd that Rose can't do a Scottish accent, but then it seems equally odd that the CIA would hire a foreign national... Unless they didn't know!? Was Moira a secret sleeper agaent intent on destroying American harmony upon activation for the foul rouge state of Scotland?
Why the hell would they want to lose money?
But then there's our minds, the punters minds to consider that we expect a good film to make more money than a bad film, and a good film is therefore a massive faliure if it only makes as much money as a bad film because we have unfair expectations.
It does seem odd that Rose can't do a Scottish accent, but then it seems equally odd that the CIA would hire a foreign national... Unless they didn't know!? Was Moira a secret sleeper agaent intent on destroying American harmony upon activation for the foul rouge state of Scotland?
The making of a good or a bad movie costs the exact same. There is no way to determine, from cost alone, what quality of work you will have.
There are cheap bad movies as there are cheap good movies as there are expensive good movies and expensive bad movies.
Yes, studios watch the bottom dollar. If this summer of comic book movies doesn't do well (and if they are good), the studios AREN'T going to go, hey, for the same price, let's just make BAD movies.
No.
They won't do that.
They'll just make different kinds of movies.
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Well the difference between First Class and Wolverine was character recognition. Wolverine is, well, WOLVERINE, and First Class, has the "feel" (to the casual moviegoer who digs action/superhero movies) of a "B-Team movie". Word of mouth of FC's quality can help after the fact, but the recognition factor is still there.
It's not like they said, "lets make a sh-tty Wolverine movie" it was "let's make a Wolverine movie". The real lesson is HIRE GOOD TALENT from the GETGO and pair with recognizable characters - like they did with Singer and X-Men originally, or Nolan and Batman.
Bad quality movies, even if they do come out the gate making money, DO hurt the money-making ability of future installments.
Money doesn't determine these things before hand.
The genius of the director vs. the madness of the primadonna actors, or vice versus.
You can tell what the pie is going to taste like from the ingredients.
The genius of the director vs. the madness of the primadonna actors, or vice versus.
You can tell what the pie is going to taste like from the ingredients.
I think another factor people are failing to consider here is the fact that this particular Summer movie season is heavily loaded with comics/superhero films - and some folks who may have gone to Thor (but aren't big comic book fans) might be saying, "Oh another superhero film? We just saw one... OR some are in fact just waiting for their superhero film of choice - be it Green Latern or Captain America.
I have a feeling if Thor's and X-Men:FC's release dates were switched - X-Men:FC would be dooing Thor's BO numbers, and vice-versa.
I have a feeling if Thor's and X-Men:FC's release dates were switched - X-Men:FC would be dooing Thor's BO numbers, and vice-versa.
I can't imagine only seeing "one movie" over the course of an entire summer.
However hiring a dvd is different from fighting your way into the movie theatre...
Then of course I don't like alcohol.
However hiring a dvd is different from fighting your way into the movie theatre...
Then of course I don't like alcohol.
Hello! I must say it now, has anyone considered how piracy numbers might be running the intake here?
http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2011/06/14/x-men-hangover-sequels-lead-most-pirated-films-list/
And how many people are inquiring if this movie is in 3D? Or one assumes it is only in 3D, doesn't want to see that crap, so doesn't go?
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/jame...-an-excuse-to-charge-you-more-well-duh-james/
100 mil in 11 days, is that good and speedy steady?
http://www.hollywoodnews.com/2011/06/14/x-men-hangover-sequels-lead-most-pirated-films-list/
And how many people are inquiring if this movie is in 3D? Or one assumes it is only in 3D, doesn't want to see that crap, so doesn't go?
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/jame...-an-excuse-to-charge-you-more-well-duh-james/
100 mil in 11 days, is that good and speedy steady?
Video Piracy doesn't work like that.
Just because one might download 10 to 20 movies a night, ie 140 movies a week, in no way does that mean that that one as a pirate would ever go to the cinema 140 times in one week which would equate to some gross dollar sum in any part of the world you are living requiring you to double your weekly gross income to supplicate which would mean you wouldn't have hours in the day left over to sleep little lone play.
Besides the first cam for X-Men first class was all blinky in some some scenes and a little blurry the whole way through.
Piracy affects DVD sales because because it's about equal visual quality, gods forbid listening to some asshole snore in the third row in Russian... But something on the internet worth watching does not come out till the dvds start selling, months and months and months after the movie has finished it's run in the theatre houses.
Just because one might download 10 to 20 movies a night, ie 140 movies a week, in no way does that mean that that one as a pirate would ever go to the cinema 140 times in one week which would equate to some gross dollar sum in any part of the world you are living requiring you to double your weekly gross income to supplicate which would mean you wouldn't have hours in the day left over to sleep little lone play.
Besides the first cam for X-Men first class was all blinky in some some scenes and a little blurry the whole way through.
Piracy affects DVD sales because because it's about equal visual quality, gods forbid listening to some asshole snore in the third row in Russian... But something on the internet worth watching does not come out till the dvds start selling, months and months and months after the movie has finished it's run in the theatre houses.
Actually movie studios are starting to see upticks on 2d movies and a drop in 3d, as its something that some find nice, but not all that.
Thing to remember is that X-men is a franchise, and has made Fox a LOT of money. The last two movies (X3 and Wolverine) almost killed the franchise as they sucked so bad, even if both made money, it was a strong downward trend. Fox also knows that a lot of people are not showing up to a X-men movie due to the fact the last two sucked. The fact that it is doing well enough means Fox will roll out another film, and see if they can start growing the franchise again.
Thing to remember is that X-men is a franchise, and has made Fox a LOT of money. The last two movies (X3 and Wolverine) almost killed the franchise as they sucked so bad, even if both made money, it was a strong downward trend. Fox also knows that a lot of people are not showing up to a X-men movie due to the fact the last two sucked. The fact that it is doing well enough means Fox will roll out another film, and see if they can start growing the franchise again.
Of course, they're not going to say "Let's just make bad movies, since they are the ones making money", however, they will look at the stories, the stars, the Director, etc of those "bad" movies that made money, and work towards duplicating that success. And, if they succeed in duplicating the same story beats, type of stars and director, then it's likely, theya re going to be churning out what some would consider to be a "bad" movie
That true, one would never watch 140 movies in one week. But among these 140 movies IS the one movie that you would have watched. And there's the loss.
^ and the one person who can't watch 140 movies a week may sell or distribute to another 139 naughty folks. 
And they tell their friends, and so on and so (insert Wayne's World here).
Again, the iffy viral marketing Fox played is a double edged sword. You put this stuff out to savvy internet folks and only savvy internet folks, they will find a way to circumvent the system. As opposed to a mom in a store with a kid screaming over a toy and there is NO way out of that but to take little KB24 and her Magneto doll to the cinema!
See, I understand Hollywood mentality to churn out the crap and make the big bucks, but I took First Class' presentation, thought, depth, and anti 3D stance as a decidedly non-Hollywood process. I really hope it finds an audience. Amazing though that we are saying that at 100 mil in 11 days!
And they tell their friends, and so on and so (insert Wayne's World here). Again, the iffy viral marketing Fox played is a double edged sword. You put this stuff out to savvy internet folks and only savvy internet folks, they will find a way to circumvent the system. As opposed to a mom in a store with a kid screaming over a toy and there is NO way out of that but to take little KB24 and her Magneto doll to the cinema!
See, I understand Hollywood mentality to churn out the crap and make the big bucks, but I took First Class' presentation, thought, depth, and anti 3D stance as a decidedly non-Hollywood process. I really hope it finds an audience. Amazing though that we are saying that at 100 mil in 11 days!