Yeah, I thought the same thing. All I could think was, "Can't be surely?!"
X-Men: Days of Future Past - Discussion Thread - SPOILERS
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It featured clips from a lot of the previous X-movies, but were there any from Origins? I only recognized clips from X2 when Logan saw Styker.
Yet I did notice at the end of the credits it listed all six previous movies (inc Origins) for using clips from.
No explanation for how Xavier came back from his X3 death either, but I suppose you can work it out for yourself by that films post-credits scene (and the relevent scene from earlier in the movie.)
Also yeah that airport scene in The Wolverine, I'd assume that was when the Sentinel threat was starting to happen and when Xavier & Magneto were getting Wolverine back in to their reformed X-Men.
So Wolverine solo film 3... a lot of us figured it would be in that two year gap at the end of the movie (before said airport scene) but I would guess now it will be in this new timeline, post DOFP, given the last scene.
I loved this new movie but I didn't really get that. Stryker taking Wolverine at the end, I got that... but hang on it's not Stryker it's actually Mystique. That's the only thing I didn't like about the end, that was a bit of a wtf moment. As I say, I preusme that will be followed up either in Apocalypse or Wolverine 3
I just found this
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/05/23/x-men-days-of-future-pasts-post-credit-sequence-explained
Ah ok.
I'm surprised there hasn't been a comic book filling the gaps between the end of The Wolverine and DOFP.
Incidentally, when Wolverine woke up in the changed timeline at the end, when was that meant to be? At the same time as the nightmarish figure or circa X-Men 1-3?
Incidentally, when Wolverine woke up in the changed timeline at the end, when was that meant to be? At the same time as the nightmarish figure or circa X-Men 1-3?
I think the dialogue with Kitty and Jean-Luc early on indicated that Logan would wake up in the same era that he left. The holographic clock seems to hint that he woke up in the future, set in a time after X3 (the 2020s?*), like Marty McFly waking up in a different 1985 at the end of Back to the Future.
*I've read elsewhere that the dystopian future is supposed to be the 2020s. The first X-Men movie is set, not in the present, but in the ambiguously-named "near-future."
He could have woken up at any time between the 70's and the time period the future scenes are set... the time travel didn't go as planned, and Xavier was waiting for him.. waiting for signs that it was him...
^ No, IIRC, Xavier clearly wasn't waiting for him, he asked why he'd slept in for his class or something like that. It was only when Wolverine referred to not knowing much history after 1973 that Charles grasped what had happened.
My own instinct was that it happened in the equivalent timeframe to the future scenes during the rest of the movie (flying wheelchair for one thing) but Rogue, Scott and Jean seemed remarkably unaged. Must be those mutant genes!
My own instinct was that it happened in the equivalent timeframe to the future scenes during the rest of the movie (flying wheelchair for one thing) but Rogue, Scott and Jean seemed remarkably unaged. Must be those mutant genes!
I thought Scott had a hint of gray. But in either timeline, I'm more surprised about Kitty and Colossus still looking as young as they do anyway.
I honestly thought that Fox was going to use this film to fully retire some of the old cast in a nice way, and make it so that McAvoy and Fassbender would not only be able to continue playing those characters, but that they would somehow be moved into the contemporary time period
Which is something ultimately from the comics so it doesn't actually require they acknowledge Origins.
Hoping to see this soon . It looks like it'll be good though.
. It looks like it'll be good though.
According to the Hollywood rags, the next movie will be much more focused on the First Class versions and set in the 80s. Scott, Jean, and Ororo are slated to appear, but as their younger, age-appropriate selves for that era, so no old cast.
With that said, I imagine that it'd be kind of difficult and awkward to show the old cast without resorting to some sort of time travel element (even in flashback form).
Well in X2, Stryker says to Wolverine " You were always an animal. I just gave you claws". Going with the notion that Logan didn't possess them before he met Stryker.
In Origins, Logan and Victor were recruited by Stryker in Vietnam. Here Stryker is noticeably younger and Logan is not in Vietnam or having joined Weapon X.
Eh it's whatever. Origins wasn't all bad IMO. LIev Scrieber as Sabertooth, John Wraith, Hugh Jackman of course were all great. Origins Sabertooth beats the pants off of X1's any day. When you're doing a time travel retcon of previous canon, why ignore something that isn't going to matter by movie's end?
I'm waiting for a 3:45 showing. Turning off my phone presently.
In the comics, Kitty's mind was sent into her past self by Rachel Summers, who originates from the alternate future seen in DOFP. She is implied to be the daughter of Cyclops and Jean in that timeline, and her mother's death in an incident caused by Mastermind was the final nail in the coffin of mutant freedom. It turned out that the persona of Future Kitty wound up in the wrong timeline and that her actions failed to change her future, and by the time she returned to her physical body only she and Rachel were left. The other surviving X-Men had given their lives to protect them, and Shadowcat ultimately gave her life so that Rachel could be sent into the past and survive. The Phoenix Force helped, having met Rachel's astral form when she projected her mind backwards to discover why the attempt to change history failed.
Rachel's telepathic powers include a form of astral projection, and Shadowcat was chosen because her younger counterpart had not yet been properly trained in telepathic defenses at the crucial point in the past. Her future mind could be sent back into her physical body where the minds of the other survivors couldn't.
As far as the movie goes, I think it would have been cool to see this version. That's not to say the existing version is bad, by any means - I really enjoyed the movie. Whether Cyclops in the DOFP era is actually Rachel's father is unclear, since Ahab traveled to the past looking for her and briefly turned him into a Hound. Cyclops wasn't able to detect Rachel's signature, which Ahab considered to be unlikely (if not impossible) for a blood relative. There have been occasional hints that her real father might be the Wolverine of her timeline, which would explain why Rachel's Hound tracking was superior to other Hounds. Tullamoor Voge, another Hound-using villain, once commented that the offspring of Logan and Jean would have boundless potential for making Hounds, which would seem to support this theory.
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Ignored or not, the timeline with Origins in has now been rebooted, so at least now I can see now how they can do Deadpool and Gambit movies and not be tied down by what went on with those characters in Origins, so that's pretty cool.
Also I just read on IMDb that at some point Mystique mentions giving birth. I don't recall that part, anyone else catch that bit?
Also I just read on IMDb that at some point Mystique mentions giving birth. I don't recall that part, anyone else catch that bit?
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Although I've never read the comic book version, I remember watching the animated X-Men series back in the '90s and enjoying the story. This is the best X-Men film I've seen in years, since X2: X-Men United.
Peter Dinklage gives a very compelling performance as Dr. Bolivar Trask, a scientist who has designed and built the gigantic Sentinel robots whose main purpose is to eliminate all mutants and--eventually--threaten all human life, leading to a very bleak future.
Evan Peters' Pietro Maximoff is a fun character who plays a significant role in helping Professor Xavier, Wolverine, and Beast rescue Magneto from a Pentagon prison. Quicksilver to Magneto: "My mom used to know a guy like you."
Jennifer Lawrence's awesome body is as graceful and dangerous as the vindictive and wrathful Mystique, hellbent on assassinating the man responsible for the Sentinel Project. It is her actions that determine the course of the future.
Speaking of bodies, I totally dig Hugh Jackman's very ripped physique and a shot of his naked ass.
The man embodies Wolverine--his rage and the intensity of his character.
The plot is well written and intricately woven into an era of U.S. history, with references to JFK's assassination, the end of the Vietnam War, and Nixon's administration that would have ushered in a dark future for humanity.
I give this movie a solid A and look forward to the next installment.
Peter Dinklage gives a very compelling performance as Dr. Bolivar Trask, a scientist who has designed and built the gigantic Sentinel robots whose main purpose is to eliminate all mutants and--eventually--threaten all human life, leading to a very bleak future.
Evan Peters' Pietro Maximoff is a fun character who plays a significant role in helping Professor Xavier, Wolverine, and Beast rescue Magneto from a Pentagon prison. Quicksilver to Magneto: "My mom used to know a guy like you."
Jennifer Lawrence's awesome body is as graceful and dangerous as the vindictive and wrathful Mystique, hellbent on assassinating the man responsible for the Sentinel Project. It is her actions that determine the course of the future.
Speaking of bodies, I totally dig Hugh Jackman's very ripped physique and a shot of his naked ass.
The man embodies Wolverine--his rage and the intensity of his character.The plot is well written and intricately woven into an era of U.S. history, with references to JFK's assassination, the end of the Vietnam War, and Nixon's administration that would have ushered in a dark future for humanity.
I give this movie a solid A and look forward to the next installment.
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