Spoilers X-Men: Apocalypse - Grading & Discussion

[.:: TSN ::.]

Just came from watching it. Its ok, good, but not great. But still it is one of the better X-men movies.

I do agree that atleast Alice will cause some problems for X-men, but probably not the Turtles. Although Alice's target audience is little bit different than X-men's.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ Good but not great is quite right, IMHO. As my friend I saw it with said, some great set pieces but didn't really hold together as a cohesive film.

Cast were great and kudos to Singer and co for taking such an ambitious storyline and epic threat. The 2000 movie seems so small-scale, almost intimate, by comparison. But at times, it was almost too big, losing proportion.

Whoever spoiled the Wolverine cameo by putting him in the trailer needs eviscerated by his claws. I really wish I didn't know he'd be in it.

I'd put it behind FC, DOFP & X2 (or Deadpool, if we count it as an X-movie) but well ahead of the other movies.

 

[JD]

The first TMNT did $493 million worldwide and Tim Burton's first Alice in Wonderland did $1 billion+ worldwide. Those international box offices, mate. Things like POTC and Alice in Wonderland do big business in Asian countries like India, China, and Japan.

I knew they did well in the theaters, but I wasn't sure if people liked them enough to go see sequels. I saw the first Alice, but didn't like it and only plan on seeing the second one if people love it.

 

[Samurai8472]

No directors cut planned

http://comicbook.com/2016/05/26/no-alternate-cut-of-x-men-apocalypse-but-deleted-scenes-coming-t/

"I'm not a big fan of director's cuts or extended editions, I never have been," Singer told Fandango. "In the case of Apocalypse, I removed what would be considered a conventional amount from the movie to protect what we call the collective experience of the feature theatrically. How it feels pace wise and movement wise."

 

[bbjeg]

I saw it last night. Not the biggest fan.

C-

Spoiler

It felt distractingly overloaded at certain times during the movie, and lacking in story/back story at other times. It had fantastic visuals and all, but other than a post apocalyptic world (no pun intended), nothing really came from this movie. There was no real purpose or resolve. In fact, it feels like the story is heading back to DoFP. If I survived the devastation Magneto caused, I'd be all for sentinels. Plus, I pretty much saw the whole movie in the trailers. There was now sting or twist in the story. It felt more like checklisting what I already knew about it.

The good: I liked seeing Quicksilver save the kids in the school. Great visuals there. Wolverine dawning his weapon X gear was also nice to see and Professor X going bald because of Apocalypse was a nice touch as was Nightcrawler teleporting in first person.

The bad: Magneto was the real villain in this movie and I'm tired of that. Oscar Isaac should of had more to do. Psylock felt like she was there because she was Oliva Munn and not like she needed to be there at all. Finally, the Jean I'm more powerful than you ending was weak. Unless she's the villain in the next movie, who can they face? If I were Xavier, I'd disband the X-Men and let Jean do things solo.

In the end, you need to see it if you want to know how the X-Men universe is unfolding and it's worth it to see it in theaters for the visuals, but I don't plan to buy this on DVD (or Blu-ray or whatever). I got it all in the first go.

 

[JD]

This one isn't as good as the best movie in the series, but it was still enjoyable.
Apocalypse was a pretty cool villain, he didn't have the deepest story or anything, but Oscar Isaac did a good job and we got some cool visual effects out of him.
Almost all of the characters got some good stuff to do in this one. I was worried that the new characters would overshadow the returning cast members, but I thought they did a pretty good job of giving everyone an interesting story. Beast was probably the one returning character who didn't get a lot of story, but I still thought he got some nice scenes.Magneto got a pretty interesting story again this time, and it gave us a great performance from Michael Fassbender. I was pretty happy with what we got for Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique too. At this point I really don't see her ending up as the character we saw in the first three movies though, she's too fully embraced her role of a heroic X-Man. It was fun seeing McAvoy playing a more traditional Xavier this time.
I think Cyclops got more development here than he did in the entire first three movies. There were some nice moments between him and Jean Grey here that showed the beginnings of their relationship. I really liked the setup we got for Jean's future as Phoenix.
Quicksilver once again got the coolest action scene in the movie. I was a little disappointed he didn't tell Magneto he was his son though.
Wolverine's small part was pretty cool, although I do think it would have been better if it hadn't been revealed in the trailer.
I was really disappointed in Angel and Pyslocke, after so much promotion based around them, especially Psylocke, they didn't really do much. We didn't get a ton of stuff with Storm either, but what we did get was good.
The overall story was pretty good too. Apocalypse's end of the world plot wasn't anything revolutionary, but I still enjoyed the way all of the stuff around it played out. The action sequences were great, I'm glad the last few movies have really started to embrace all of the different characters powers.

 

[Set Harth]

His famous darwinistic attitude (imo, one of the most interesting things about the character) was barely present.

I thought that was tied into the planned "apocalypse". The idea was that the survivors would be the fittest, so to speak.

BTW ally sheedy is playing Scott Summer's teacher who reports him to the principal office.

No matter what timeline you're in, it seems that Cyclops consistently gets in trouble at school just for having severe migraines. These filmmakers don't appear to have a good opinion of the US public school system...

 

[STEPhon IT]

Ugh! I wish this property returned to Disney/Marvel. I'm sick and tired of Bryan Singer's vomit of bile of an X-Men series. He's had the characters all wrong - right from the start. Like Fantastic Four, these stories never seem to make any sense--even when they try real hard to fix what was originally done BY SINGER HIMSELF??? I'm sure the viewers who loved B v S are going to adore this lack luster prolonged sequel.

 

[Commander Richard]

An enjoyable movie with returning cast members that I liked, a lot of melodramatic moments and impressive yet excessive special effects.

B.

Loved Quicksilver's rescue. How did he know there was trouble?

I laughed my ass off at the jab at X3 (after the Jedi screening) and Quicksilver steals the scenes he's on.

I thought the movie was poking fun at itself. Didn't realize it was a Last Stand reference.

I loved seeing Logan's escape from the Weapon X facility and the end credit scene (hinting at X-23).

Looked like it was a different take on his previous escape where he was running out naked. As for X-23, looking forward to her. Can't wait to see who they cast.

Random thought- I noticed Angel is never referred to as Warren Worthington, and even in the end credits is simply "Angel." Given the wonky timeline and ages, it's probably best to assume that (like Emma Frost) this guy and the one in X-Men 3 are two different people with similar powers.

Makes sense. I was distracted by that continuity glitch.

Best thing about the movie? Psylocke. Man is her outfit hot.

Seeing Olivia Munn was great. She's finally realized her dream of being a big actress and a superhero. She only had one line though.

Psylocke - Ditto, although she seemed a little bit petty at times.

Thought you said "pretty" I was about to agree.

Storm - Her part was extremely small, but well done. I liked her.

An interesting backstory they gave her. She wasn't born a mutant. She was given powers.

Jubilee - The costume was perfect, the actress was great.

Jubilee in 1983. Another contradiction with previous films?

It felt weird to be showing off the blackbird and how great an asset it is only to immediately blow everything up right after.

I figured that maybe its location allowed it to survive the explosion.

Whoever spoiled the Wolverine cameo by putting him in the trailer needs eviscerated by his claws. I really wish I didn't know he'd be in it.

I thought that he'd be in it more.

 

[Tosk]

I figured that maybe its location allowed it to survive the explosion.

Wasn't it was the origin of the explosion?

 

[Commander Richard]

^ If that was the case, I didn't notice.

 

[Set Harth]

An interesting backstory they gave her. She wasn't born a mutant. She was given powers.

Huh? The first time we see her she's using her powers. She was born a mutant.

 

[Commander Richard]

^ If that's the case, then strike two for me.

[Edit] I'm reading that her powers were ungraded, not given.

 

[Tosk]

^ If that was the case, I didn't notice.

I could be wrong, but I thought it was Havok's blast, missing the departing Apocalypse and Co, striking the Blackbird that set off the explosion. I am unsure now.

 

[Commander Richard]

^ Looks like I'm definitely going to have to see this again at some point.

 

[Set Harth]

Was Logan's little box made of adamantium?

Because if it wasn't, wouldn't he have been able to get out of it all by himself?

 

[Gryffindorian]

Despite the numerous negative reviews I had read prior to seeing this movie, I thoroughly enjoyed it. It wasn't exceptional like Days of Future Past, and I felt most of the secondary characters (including Storm, Archangel, Psylocke, Nightcrawler, et al) were just that: secondary and one-dimensional. Oscar Isaac's portrayal of the omnipotent Apocalypse wasn't as imposing or menacing as I had expected, and his baritone pitch didn't help any. Evan Peters as the speedster Pietro stole every scene and was one of the strongest things about the movie.

Still, it sets a good follow-up to the events of 1973. Raven, a.k.a. Mystique, is hailed as a hero by many mutants in the year 1983, which is now an altered timeline following the dissolution of the Sentinel Project in DOFP. Magneto tries to lead a normal, modest life in Poland, only to have his happiness taken away from him. Charles Xavier is busy teaching and providing guidance to young mutants at his school.

But things soon get disrupted when the ancient and powerful En Sabah Nur awakens from his long slumber to bring about a new world order. It's up to Mystique and a handful of inexperienced young mutants to stop Apocalypse and his minions and save the professor.

Overall rating: B+

 

[Reverend]

Was Logan's little box made of adamantium?

Because if it wasn't, wouldn't he have been able to get out of it all by himself?

Depends. He can't slash his way out if his limbs are being held in place. He's strong, but not crazy Superman strong and that box looked plenty hefty.

 

[bbjeg]

Cutting through everything is Wolverine's thing.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

I thought that was tied into the planned "apocalypse". The idea was that the survivors would be the fittest, so to speak.

I can see that, but overall his actions seemed mostly set up to benefit himself, not to test anyone else, and his rhetoric was more paternalistic/saviorish than darwinistic (lots of 'my children', and 'i've come to save you from your blind leaders'). So, yeah, there was a trace of that attitude in the movie, but not nearly as much as there ought to have been.

Cutting through everything is Wolverine's thing.

But cutting through anything, even with the best knife in the world, still requires force. Immobilize his wrist with something he can't break, and he won't be able to move his claws anywhere near the box.