Spoilers X-Men: Apocalypse - Grading & Discussion

[Spot261]

I enjoyed the film but have to agree that Apocalypse's plan felt rushed. I'd actually rather it had been allowed to develop over a two or three movie run, giving the sense of him being more a meticulous if rather obsessive genius rather than the slightly opportunistic character we saw.

 

[JD]

Has Quicksilver ever been an X-Man in the comics? I was under the impression that he was just an Avenger in the comics.

 

[Saga]

Has Quicksilver ever been an X-Man in the comics? I was under the impression that he was just an Avenger in the comics.

he was a member of X-Factor primarily.

 

[DarKush]

Which is exactly what the critics are saying. There's no hate for this movie from critics.

I disagree. This film has received a lot of negative criticism before it premiered. I think some of that criticism has been warranted.

 

[Ethros]

Most reviews I've seen are basically "it's alright, noting special or anything to write home about, not as good as Civil War or DoFP"

If Cable it to be introduced in Deadpool 2 I'd like to see him then be a part of the next X-movie with the Mr Sinister, maybe then explaining who he is and how was created with Jean & Scott's DNA, then be in the New Mutant movie too (or whichever way round that and the next X movie are happening)


And did the whole "Mystique actually had Wolverine at the end of DofP, not Stryker, so why does he have him now" not bother anyone else? That just screamed of "ah we can't think of anything Mystqiue could have done with him so let's just ignore that." So lame and lazy.

 

[Unicron]

Has Quicksilver ever been an X-Man in the comics? I was under the impression that he was just an Avenger in the comics.

Several counterparts of him also served with the X-Men of their realities, although I'm not sure if that was true of the 616 Quicksilver.

 

[Goji]

And did the whole "Mystique actually had Wolverine at the end of DofP, not Stryker, so why does he have him now" not bother anyone else? That just screamed of "ah we can't think of anything Mystqiue could have done with him so let's just ignore that." So lame and lazy.

No, since that was 10 years prior to this movie, and it was clear from what she told Nightcrawler that Mystique wasn't planning on babysitting him for 10 days after freeing him, let alone a decade.

 

[Pauln6]

I couldn't quite get to grips with why Quicksilver or anybody else didn't suffer any kind of burns from being so close to the explosion. Doesn't heat travel at the speed of light?

Thinking about it, I suppose Psylocke couldn't be Betsy, since Betsy is a telepath and if he already had a telepath, why would he need Charles?

The Mystique thing was annoying but it has been 10 years. Maybe she just rescued Logan from the bay and left him to his own devices.

 

[Tosk]

I couldn't quite get to grips with why Quicksilver or anybody else didn't suffer any kind of burns from being so close to the explosion. Doesn't heat travel at the speed of light?

Depends on the source of the heat and what it has to travel through.

But anyway, he got 'em out of there quickly. Just like putting your hand in a fire; you can do it without being burnt just as long as you do it quickly.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Depends on the source of the heat and what it has to travel through.

But anyway, he got 'em out of there quickly. Just like putting your hand in a fire; you can do it without being burnt just as long as you do it quickly.

Yup. Depends on heat type and distance. Just because part of the air is fire-colored doesn't mean it actually will damage you. I have waved my hand straight through the top of bonfires on many occasions after leaning it from a friend.

 

[Pauln6]

Hmm yeah I guess. I recall Rachel Riley diving through flames on a zip wire and being totally unharmed as she was doused in water. Plus the pressure wave is travelling at the speed of sound so much slower than Pietro - sorry, Peter. :-/ Folk can't cope with 'ethnic' names any more than they can cope with Scottish accents!

 

[Starbreaker]

I saw this at the drive-in last night. Psylocke and Archangel were completely wasted. And why the hell did the trailers show the last 2 scenes from the movie? The marketing department needs to be fired.

 

[Commander Richard]

^ It was the only shot of Professor X as we know him and I guess they thought it was important to show that.

And I didn't know that drive-ins still existed.

 

[Set Harth]

And did the whole "Mystique actually had Wolverine at the end of DofP, not Stryker, so why does he have him now" not bother anyone else? That just screamed of "ah we can't think of anything Mystqiue could have done with him so let's just ignore that." So lame and lazy.

What was she supposed to have done with him? She only "had" him when he had just been fished out of the Potomac, but that doesn't mean she "had" him in the sense that he then became her possession. She clearly wouldn't be able to control him or stop him from doing whatever he wanted, even if that had been her agenda, so it seems he went off on his own at some point. Does the movie really have to bend over backwards pointing this kind of thing out?

 

[bbjeg]

^ It was the only shot of Professor X as we know him and I guess they thought it was important to show that.

And I didn't know that drive-ins still existed.

True, but they did pretty much show the majority of the movie in the trailers.

Also, there's a drive-in right up the street from me and they show new movies and everything.

 

[Gryffindorian]

I enjoyed the film but have to agree that Apocalypse's plan felt rushed. I'd actually rather it had been allowed to develop over a two or three movie run, giving the sense of him being more a meticulous if rather obsessive genius rather than the slightly opportunistic character we saw.

The movie itself was long enough at 2 1/2 hours. Do audiences really want to watch this plotline drag on for two or three additional movies? It's not like The X-Men is some epic trilogy like Lord of the Rings.

 

[Spot261]

Each to their own, I'd actually suggest less attention span would be required if the films were individually shortened and made episodic and the underlying arc given more complexity over multiple installments, much as the MCU is doing with the infinity stones arc.

 

[Commander Richard]

I prefer that these movies be long with some meat on it. They come out every 2 or 3 years so I'd like to see something more than the 80-minutes that a lot of other movies get.

I also can't think of anything in this movie that I would have wanted to see stretched out over three movies, not even with added complexity. More on Psylocke might have been nice but there's time to tell her story in other movies.

 

[Ethros]

What was she supposed to have done with him? She only "had" him when he had just been fished out of the Potomac, but that doesn't mean she "had" him in the sense that he then became her possession. She clearly wouldn't be able to control him or stop him from doing whatever he wanted, even if that had been her agenda, so it seems he went off on his own at some point. Does the movie really have to bend over backwards pointing this kind of thing out?

I suppose, it just seems pointless to me ending DoFP to make a big point with the very last shot of the movie that actually it wasn't Stryker taking him it was Mystique, to then have in the new movie it be "oh yeah well Stryker got him anyway later I guess. That last part didn't really matter."
Sorry, but to me that's just not good storytelling.

 

[Mr Light]

I thought the movie was very good and certainly the biggest X-Movie in scale. Apocalypse is my favorite X-villain so I'm biased towards this one, but it might be my favorite just for the sheer amount of characters and story flying around.

I initially thought it was too light on action, but then I realized that *all* the X-Movies are like that. But I really wished they had an initial fight with Apocalypse where they completely lost, but it gives them a better idea of his power set to plan for the final battle.