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Yeah, I just started a pally and jumped into WSG as soon as I hit level 10. I hit 11 while in the bg! If I was going to play regularly, I would totally level up through battlegrounds.
 
if you get bored leveling through pve content, you can try leveling via battlegrounds. my wife is now hooked on battlegrounds... she's working on a third character to reach 80 and using BGs to reach it (she started BGs around 58 and is in her 70's now).
When I gave up it was World Of Walking everywhere. That and drops by foes were so pathetic that hours of gameplay were needed just to be able to afford the most basic of supplies. I don't remember ever getting XP for PVP so I did very little in the Battlegrounds. I saw little point to it.

BG XP is new (introduced in patch 3.2)...

as for hoping mobs drop good gear... i always thought that the good gear came from quests, then dungeons, then raids... hoping to get good loot off a regular mob is not the way to go...
 
if you get bored leveling through pve content, you can try leveling via battlegrounds. my wife is now hooked on battlegrounds... she's working on a third character to reach 80 and using BGs to reach it (she started BGs around 58 and is in her 70's now).
When I gave up it was World Of Walking everywhere. That and drops by foes were so pathetic that hours of gameplay were needed just to be able to afford the most basic of supplies. I don't remember ever getting XP for PVP so I did very little in the Battlegrounds. I saw little point to it.

BG XP is new (introduced in patch 3.2)...

as for hoping mobs drop good gear... i always thought that the good gear came from quests, then dungeons, then raids... hoping to get good loot off a regular mob is not the way to go...
I could never find a decent team to do any missions. I went solo pretty much all the way to 36th and just gave up. In COH I saw great team after great team. Great Supergroup after super group. I also did not like that you could not get a mount until 40th level and when you did it was so expensive that all one's wealth went into being able to move just slightly faster. It did not seem like it was worth it. I have heard they lowered the level and cost but it is too little too late. In COH I was airborn at 12th level. Champions Online even quicker. There is quite a bit of depth to WOW but sitting around making pouches isn't my idea of high fantasy adventure.
 
When I gave up it was World Of Walking everywhere. That and drops by foes were so pathetic that hours of gameplay were needed just to be able to afford the most basic of supplies. I don't remember ever getting XP for PVP so I did very little in the Battlegrounds. I saw little point to it.

BG XP is new (introduced in patch 3.2)...

as for hoping mobs drop good gear... i always thought that the good gear came from quests, then dungeons, then raids... hoping to get good loot off a regular mob is not the way to go...
I could never find a decent team to do any missions. I went solo pretty much all the way to 36th and just gave up. In COH I saw great team after great team. Great Supergroup after super group. I also did not like that you could not get a mount until 40th level and when you did it was so expensive that all one's wealth went into being able to move just slightly faster. It did not seem like it was worth it. I have heard they lowered the level and cost but it is too little too late. In COH I was airborn at 12th level. Champions Online even quicker. There is quite a bit of depth to WOW but sitting around making pouches isn't my idea of high fantasy adventure.

It sounds like you haven't played in about... what.... 4 years?

It's almost a completely different game now because the focus is so different. Levelling is soooo much easier, and they practically give you your ground mounts now and at level 20 and 40 instead of 40 and 60.

One thing a lot of people who play really really casually miss out on are guilds. I'm not sure why they don't join them, maybe they're intimidated? But a good, friendly levelling guild can be a nice place to be while you're advancing your character, always people around to help you do quests and run the dungeons you need. I mean, if you never even really did any dungeons and never got to the point where you raided, and never had any fun even doing things like world PvP, you didn't really play the game. That's too bad, and I'm well aware that your story is not an uncommon one. It would be nice if levelling was a bit more glamorous. When you played was there Quest Helper? You can level to the 30s in under a week of just a couple hours a day playing now, it's pretty ridiculous. A friend of mine levelled an alt all the way to 80 in just under three weeks, and that was on the side when he wasn't playing his main.

As for today, most of the guild couldn't get logged in until about 5:00 PST, three hours after the server first came back up. Most of the instance servers are messed up, couldn't get into the ICC raid, and even ToC's progression has been reset so you can't go past Northrend Beasts. Did the first two instances of the Frozen Halls but couldn't get into the third one.

Bought this upgrade to my ring and also this bag though.
 
Levelling is easier in too many ways to count. Even without addons, the quests seem easier. Things that used to be impossible to find now sparkle, they've changed the drop rates on certain items, etc. I don't like acquiring lots of characters so I've always taken my time levelling and just messed around a lot, but it's certainly not nearly as difficult as it was way back in the day when I started my first character.

Okay, it helps that I now also know to go to the trainer for new spells and to distribute talent points every so often. :lol:
 
Haven't been on in a while I guess? They've been downloading the new patch in pieces for several weeks, my download yesterday before I logged in took about 2 minutes and was only a few megabytes big.
 
The new patch naturally came with new problems. Lots and lots of lag, disconnects, etc but it will go away as people get in and do stuff. The new dungeons are nice and interesting. I've been through the first two but the third one was inaccessible due to ten million people trying to do them too.
 
I stuck my head into the first new dungeon just long enough to turn in the quest to Jaina. I can't find the new Ashen Verdict vendors or Quartersmaster anywhere. Am I looking in the wrong place or is it one of those phased things where they only appear after you are friendly with them or whatever?
 
One thing a lot of people who play really really casually miss out on are guilds. I'm not sure why they don't join them, maybe they're intimidated? But a good, friendly levelling guild can be a nice place to be while you're advancing your character, always people around to help you do quests and run the dungeons you need. I mean, if you never even really did any dungeons and never got to the point where you raided, and never had any fun even doing things like world PvP, you didn't really play the game.
I did play quite a bit at first. I even joined a guild. The guild just never did anything that I ever took part in. In COH all I had to do was post that I was looking for a team and within minutes I would be in one. In WOW such requests were universally ignored. I had more challenges for fights than I ever saw invites for a team. I'm just glad I was on a PVP by choice server, so I would not have been constantly ganked by jerks who get their jollys attacking low levels who cannot fight back.
 
I stuck my head into the first new dungeon just long enough to turn in the quest to Jaina. I can't find the new Ashen Verdict vendors or Quartersmaster anywhere. Am I looking in the wrong place or is it one of those phased things where they only appear after you are friendly with them or whatever?

They are inside the ICC raid, which is also the only way to earn reputation with them.
 
Not crazy, it would only take a couple of average evenings to do it.

I'm only friendly with them but all it took was the trash and 2 bosses in 10 and then the trash and one boss in 25 to reach that point.
 
I've never been in a guild that I didn't get sick of. Even my really quite excellent guild goes through weeks of being taken over by teenagers saying "ur mother" every other sentence.

Of late on other servers I choose my guild based on how good the guild name sounds under my character name. That is about all I get out of guilds.
 
I've been through enough guilds I just go with one that seems to have it's shit together. Most of them eventually either fall apart from in-fighting or just from inactivity. There are two I'm in now that are doing fine. One is a causual raiding guild, the other is semi-serious about it but neither is a hardcore raid all day and night type either. They occasionally do PVP stuff but I only do them when I feel like it.
 
I recently joined a woman only guild on another server from my normal one (DK's are great for that!!). I have reasons to transfer off one server I'm on and I may just transfer my chars to the server with the women only guild (and have to delete my second DK, wah). The guild is very big and no one says "ur mother".

I wonder when they will let us have more than one DK on a server.
 
Is there still a glut of Death Knights? I really need to level mine yet and get his trade skills up. At least the Death Knights can either tank or DPS so all a group would need is a healer.
 
Yeah, there's a fail train. a pug of 4 DK's and one healer.

DK's have been pretty much nerfed down to the rest of the herd. Some would say they have been nerfed to the point of lagging behind other classes.

Glut? no not really, but they still have the reputation of being the new Huntard. While Hunters on the other hand have seen alot of the bad players switch out to other fotm classes and are enjoying some respect at last.
 
My guild ran Ramps and Blood Furnace with all-DK groups back in the day. It was fun, and we did great. When there's a few blood spec DK's in the group, who needs a healer? :)
 
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