Discussion in 'Star Trek: Voyager' started by Reyman, Feb 3, 2020.
I will absolutely give anything Trek a chance.
They could do that with Discovery. I would have liked to see them reset and wipe their existence from the prime universe and end up in a completely different galaxy so control couldn't get to them.
It would only work in the Kelvin Universe. Even if the best characters and stories were taken for the reboot, it would also probably have to be less of a TNG in the Delta Quadrant vibe and more of a Year of Hell vibe, with higher tensions between Starfleet and Maquis (i.e. mutinies).
I'd check out a reboot, but I'd far rather see a new ship and a new crew. But there's certainly room to explore the premise further - another show about a starship stranded far from the Federation could be very cool.
If I could choose just one Trek show to receive this treatment, it'd definitely be Voyager.
I just feel that had that show been released just ten years later than it was, then all the missed opportunities wouldn't have been missed.
It was possibly Trek's most daring and interesting concept, diluted and held back from really exploring any of that simply because television in 1994 wasn't ready for it yet. Once long-form storytelling in genre television kicked off big in the late 90s/early 00s, Voyager looked and felt anachronistic. And it was. But the potential was there for it to have really enbraced the new paradigm.
A reboot, even something darker and edgier to truly show the horrors of being a lone starship with no backup in an unfriendly territory, yes, there's genuinely potential there.
They could follow the lead of the movies and recast with a younger crew. Who's popular on Nickelodeon and the Disney Channel these days?
Sure, I'd watch it. I'd be confused how it got greenlit, and I wouldn't be nearly as interested in a non-prime universe Trek. But I'd give it a shot.
Are you suggesting 1950s movies generally do not hold up well? Haven't watched All About Eve or Sunset Blvd lately I guess.
To me the only thing about 1950s Hollywood movies that don't hold up are the portrayals of women being imbecilic in movies like Some Like It Hot, and the refusal to show any moral ambiguity in crime movies or ever end with the criminal getting away. And the latter isn't even an issue in non-American films.
I mean a part of me is like 'YES, I WILL WATCH ANYTHING STAR TREK AND I ALWAYS WANT MORE TREK', but on the other hand Voyager is my favorite trek (so far at least, I am still working on getting through all the Trek series) and part of the reason I love it is the actors who played the characters. I am not sure I would be open to seeing a new cast play B'elanna, Tom, the Doctor, Seven of Nine...
You're preaching to the choir. I love old movies from the silent era on. TCM was my favorite channel until my local cable service asked me to pay an extra $10 a month for it. I see your ALL ABOUT EVE and SUNSET BOULEVARD and raise you BRINGING UP BABY and THE THIRD MAN.
I was just acknowledging that some vintage movies can seem dated or creaky to a lot of modern viewers, so I wanted to reassure any skeptics reading my post.
Meanwhile, just to nitpick, GASLIGHT was made in the 1930s, not the 1950s.
I don't think I'd want to see any of the series rebooted, even Enterprise which i don't like. Would I want to see a sequel series? Yes. Having an entirely new ship returning to the delta quadrant to continue what Voyager started would be pretty cool. I'd love to see how weird and terrifying the Delta Quadrant could be with today's production values.
It's a case of "to each, their own" then.
Personally I'd hate to see Gilligan's Island or M*A*S*H or Starsky and Hutch or Three's Company or Cheers or any other classics remade just so younger generations can have "their" version. To me, if something is good, it's good and you accept it for what it is regardless of when it was made.
We're not talking about Sherlock Holmes or a Shakespearean play here, we're talking tele and I don't think shows need to be updated every 10-20 years because creatives draw a blank and taken the easy path.
And I find very few remakes/reboots are as good as the original.
Most remakes/reboots come about because the original was really good and/or popular.
Main reason I'd want to see a reboot is because I felt the Voyager premise had more miles in it and could potentially be done better.
Depends on the folks involved.
I'd watch it if it were a reboot in the style of Battlestar Galactica -- don't know why hardly anybody's mentioning that one; I vastly prefer the reboot to the original -- darker, grittier, and more realistic. Let Janeway and Chakotay's (and their respective former crews') teamwork be of the teeth-clenched variety at first, gradually evolving into respect. Let the struggle for survival at least start out as an actual struggle. Let original Fleeters as well as former Maquis question their command team's decisions some of the time. Let more people be changed by their situation, marrying, having children, visibly not putting their lives on hold until they get home, but living them. Hell, let the ship be changed by the situation, ending up not as pure Starfleet but as a workable hybrid of the Starfleet way and the survival skills of the Maquis. (It always bothered me that the Maquis apparently brought nothing to the table but manpower and problems.)
...or because the original was weak and someone was trying to improve upon it,
or because a director was influenced by something they saw during their formative years and wants to re-create it (or send an homage of sorts)...
One stellar remake was The Thing (1982). Carpenter hit the nail on the head with that one, and the original was also really quite solid. I suspect option 2 is the reason for that one, unless they were both adapted from the same source material, which was a novella from the 30s.
eta: both adapted from the same novella... so a re-adaptation not a remake. I checked.
No, I wouldn't. It would ruin my memories of the series.
The line between re-adaptation and remake can be a blurry one. Depends a lot on how much the new movie draws on the previous one, as opposed to the original source material, and also on how much the movie has eclipsed the original book or story in the popular imagination.
If and when somebody redoes JAWS, it will be surely be perceived as a remake of the Spielberg movie, not a new adaptation of Peter Benchley's novel.
I wouldn't watch a Voyager rerun.
So, Stargate Universe, then? (Which I hated at the time but looking back and rewatching I thought way ahead of it's time)
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