Would it be cool if the Borg appear on Star Trek Academy?
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The Borg as portrayed don't work as anything other than villains. They kidnap, brainwash, and enslave you against your will for life. Even if the collective became benevolent, who would still be a member? The Jurati Borg don't work for me at all, because all of its members don't really have the option to leave, and even a Borg 800 years in the future attending Starfleet Academy raises the question of how they're still a Borg.
Now, there might be some interesting analogies to be done with cult membership or something, and that would have to be pretty much the only way I would want to tackle the subject. Not just "oh yeah we're Borg, but we're good now."
Now, there might be some interesting analogies to be done with cult membership or something, and that would have to be pretty much the only way I would want to tackle the subject. Not just "oh yeah we're Borg, but we're good now."
Fire Berman.
Hey, that's really novel. I'd be down with a non-corporeal Borg.
A passing reference to Queen Agnes' Borg would be plenty. And then never again. 
I generally don't like the Borg, but I could be ok with this.
The Jurati Borg have the potential for an interesting new spin. Uneasy allies with a Borg collective, one that isn’t hell bent on assimilation? Could be fun! And, in a way, it could mirror the arc the Klingons took a bit, going from enemies to allies, if occasionally uneasy ones.
I know that the Borg are way overused but it was kind of cool to have the OG Borg storyline conclude (hopefully definitively) in PIC S3. I liked the through line from TNG to FC to VOY to PIC and it was neat to see the Queen in rough shape because of what Janeway did. Having the same old Borg show up, again (“somehow, the Borg returned”), would cheapen that I think.
I know that the Borg are way overused but it was kind of cool to have the OG Borg storyline conclude (hopefully definitively) in PIC S3. I liked the through line from TNG to FC to VOY to PIC and it was neat to see the Queen in rough shape because of what Janeway did. Having the same old Borg show up, again (“somehow, the Borg returned”), would cheapen that I think.
Well, we already have seen a Borg in what was described as "the far future" from a 24th century perspective, although the exact date is not specified. Ironically enough, we even see them in an academic setting.
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I always just go "what's the story?" If the story is good, sure! It's not enough to just say they should appear. There should be an element of reinvention and distillation of their core and I don't buy into the idea of overuse or over exposure. People were saying they were overdone back in 2003 and then "Regeneration" delivered the best Borg episode in a long while.
I agree on this point.
The Jurati Borg was, for me, one of the stupidest things Trek ever did. I had to head canon it out of existence.
If the writers had a good enough vision and story how the Borg have evolved over the centuries, I’d be interested.
But generally they’re so overdone the novelty and menace wore off a long, long time ago. For me, the Borg concept jumped the shark first, when they became Lore’s cult members, then again when the sexualised Borg Queen appeared and finally, when Voyager ran them into the ground (who can forget how casually Janeway and crew underwent assimilation as though it was just another day at the fucking office?)
If the writers had a good enough vision and story how the Borg have evolved over the centuries, I’d be interested.
But generally they’re so overdone the novelty and menace wore off a long, long time ago. For me, the Borg concept jumped the shark first, when they became Lore’s cult members, then again when the sexualised Borg Queen appeared and finally, when Voyager ran them into the ground (who can forget how casually Janeway and crew underwent assimilation as though it was just another day at the fucking office?)
The story IMO if they did my idea of the Borg as Computer Virus is that this would lead to a change in how Starfleet uses technology. I know your sort of getting in "Battlestar Galatica" territory where humans did away with interconnected tech do to the Cylons but I think it would be neat if Starfleet was using a new organic alien tech design that can't be so easily corrupted by the Borg. If you wanted you could even bring back Species 8472 as allies who they get the tech from. Maybe even have one of them as a series regular who, to fit in has taken humanoid form. The ship also instead of warp drive uses advanced solar sails. A complete new approach to Starfleet tech.
Jurati's allied Borg, yes. We even see them in the far future of Lower Decks.
Regular Borg, no. Fuck no. Unless it's a reboot of sorts with a totally fresh spin on the concept.
Regular Borg, no. Fuck no. Unless it's a reboot of sorts with a totally fresh spin on the concept.
I expect the Borg to show up on Star Trek: Prodigy because it's going to be screen in the Delta Quadrant the Borg's home space.
Pretty much.
They had some moments in VOY (especially pre-Queen as VOY went there without going there) and PIC season 3 but once the baddies' returns stop feeling natural and increasingly contrived... meh.
I was surprised they came back for PIC 3, though they do fix the issues that occurred in the previous two seasons. Maybe they knew there wouldn't be a fourth season so they had to be crammed in. Fairly worth it.
No. Just no.
Maybe that. But he (or she, or s/he, or it) would by definition be an ex-Borg, like Hugh, or Seven.
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