Worst Star Trek Moment of All Time (for me)

[EEE]

The destruction of the Enterprise in STIII. This is a double edged sword as well for me.

The Enterprise was the real star of the whole TOS series for me and they killed her. The 1701-A was a nice thought, but it was at best, a renamed twin sibling. At least the "new" Spock was grown from the original and contained all original personality/thoughts/"katrah."

And to make matters worse, when they killed her, they made her FIZZLE! No, no, no, NO! The self-destruct should've been MUCH closer to a super-nova after all those decades of repeatedly (in syndication) threatening self-destruction. That fizzle made all those threats little more than actually using the 'secret corbomite device.' How could the director illogically have allowed this aspect at least?!?!?

 

[GodThingFormerly]

EEE said:
The self-destruct should've been MUCH closer to a super-nova after all those decades of repeatedly (in syndication) threatening self-destruction. That fizzle made all those threats little more than actually using the 'secret corbomite device.' How could the director illogically have allowed this aspect at least?!?!?

As much as it utterly sickens me to defend trash like Harve Bennett and Leonard Nimoy, releasing several tons of anti-matter from containment while the Enterprise was in orbit over Genesis would have fatally gamma-irradiated the hemisphere of the planet that Kirk and the gang had just beamed down to.

TGT

 

[sbk1234]

I never had a problem with the destruction of the Enterprise. I figure shitty stuff happens in real life. Although people repeatedly speak to how awesome the Enterprise is, and how there is no other ship like it, the truth is, what made that ship special was its crew. Given enough time, they'd whip any ship into shape, and still prove to be the best.

For me, the worst Star Trek moment of all time would be Uhura's fan dance.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

^Have to disagree there...
Data's infamous boob joke...
I'd hope that when I'm Uhura's age, I look that good!

 

[Jon1701]

No.

The "Sideways" Warp Drive effect in The Final Frontier beats all.

"Varp speed Now..."

I feel ill just thinking about it.

 

[EEE]

The God Thing said:
As much as it utterly sickens me to defend trash like Harve Bennett and Leonard Nimoy, releasing several tons of anti-matter from containment while the Enterprise was in orbit over Genesis would have fatally gamma-irradiated the hemisphere of the planet that Kirk and the gang had just beamed down to.

TGT

Not good enough for me (*grin*). They could've rationalized their way out of anything like that. (i.e. "we were protected on the Genesis planet because, well Jim, it's an unstable Genesis planet")

 

[The Old Mixer]

The God Thing said:
As much as it utterly sickens me to defend trash like Harve Bennett and Leonard Nimoy, releasing several tons of anti-matter from containment while the Enterprise was in orbit over Genesis would have fatally gamma-irradiated the hemisphere of the planet that Kirk and the gang had just beamed down to.

Indeed. Plus, it would have likely taken out the Klingon ship--their ride outta there. Kirk was trying to cheat death again, not commit suicide.

I read in a non-canon source where the destruction of the 1701 was described as using a secondary destruct system that employed conventional charges rather than throwing all the matter and anti-matter together. That makes sense, considering the destruction seemed primarily based in ths saucer, with the engineering section staying intact until it plummeted from orbit.

I'm surprised people would be so attached to the movie version of the ship, though. It was very pretty, but it was the original in name only...the ship that was destroyed in III was a completely different ship than the one seen in the series...a recast, if you will. Would Spock's "death" in TWOK have had a fraction of the resonance if another actor had been playing the part in TMP and TWOK?

 

[Kegek]

^
You're probably referring to Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, which did posit there being two different self-destruct systems. That works for me, though it probably should have been explained onscreen.

And while it might have been a different model, it was still the Enterprise, just like the Klingons were still the Klingons - they just looked better because there was a bigger budget now.

For me, though, rock bottom moment is... 'Shit!'

I don't have a problem with profanity in principle, but that was such a 'just-for-the-hell-of-it-because-censors-are-looser' moment, and part of a largely regrettable and annoying character arc Data had in Generations.

 

[Amasov]

I always cringe when I watch Data perform his little life form song in Generations.

 

[The Old Mixer]

^I love the "Life Forms" song! My take on the emotion chip was:

*It had been set up in the series.

*At that point, we were looking at maybe eight more hours of TNG, so why not take a chance exploring the character in a new light?

*Just having emotions suddenly thrust upon him after living about 25 years without them was enough of a hook, without declaring that the chip had "malfunctioned".

*The whole chip angle was cheapened and ruined by its treatment in the subsequent movies. First it can be turned off, then it can be removed, then it's ignored altogether.

Kegek said:
You're probably referring to Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise, which did posit there being two different self-destruct systems.

I thought it was, but thought it might also have been the FASA RPG supplement for the movie.

Stopping to explain onscreen that it was the lesser of two self-destruct options would have ruined the impact of the scene.

 

[Kegek]

The Old Mixer said:
Stopping to explain onscreen that it was the lesser of two self-destruct options would have ruined the impact of the scene.

I didn't say they had to do it that way. More like 'execute operation self-destruct B', so all the nerds can go 'aaaah, the other one is self-destruct A'!

On the other hand, the self-destruct sequence is taken pretty verbatim from "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", so I've no real faults for consistency here.

 

[Good Will Riker]

The worst Star Trek movie moments for me:

1.) The Final Frontier: What was William Shatner thinking? Glad we got a proper send-off with Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.
2.) Generations: Great concept; poor execution, especially with the way they handled Kirk's death. Paramount rushed it and the screenplay needed a few more re-writes.
3.) First Contact: I wanted the Borg to be more like "Jaws in space." While enjoyable, we didn't exactly endup with the big, epic Borg film that fans had been waiting years for.
4.) Insurrection: They should have gone with Michael Piller's original "Heart of Darkness" storyline.
5.) Nemesis: They had "4 years" to work on this...and they came up with this?

 

[Armus]

The worst Star Trek movie moments for me:

1.) The Final Frontier: What was William Shatner thinking? Glad we got a proper send-off with Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.
2.) Generations: Great concept; poor execution, especially with the way they handled Kirk's death. Paramount rushed it and the screenplay needed a few more re-writes.
3.) First Contact: I wanted the Borg to be more like "Jaws in space." While enjoyable, we didn't exactly endup with the big, epic Borg film that fans had been waiting years for.
4.) Insurrection: They should have gone with Michael Piller's original "Heart of Darkness" storyline.
5.) Nemesis: They had "4 years" to work on this...and they came up with this?

Yes, that pretty much sums it up.

 

[ancient]

-Most of the very dull build-up scenes in TMP.
Oh...clouds...and...

wait for it...more clouds!

Wait...wait...more clouds!

-The Nemesis wedding Scenes with picard, and the last 3/4ths of NEM.

Other than that, I must be pretty easy to please, because I found TWOK, TSFS, TVH, TFF, TUC, GEN, FC, and INS all to be good to Ok, with no truely painful scenes. Well, maybe a few in INS, like the scream thing. WTF was that about?

"Your command codes are over-ridden."

"EEEEEEEEEEAARRRRRRGGHH!!!!!!"

Dude, it ain't the end of the world, k?

 

[SiorX]

My worst Trek movie moment of all time was probably when I realised that Insurrection actually passes the Bechdel Test because of the scene where Beverly and Deanna discuss their breasts. >_<

(The Bechdel Test: A movie must have at least two women in it, and they must talk to each other about something other than a man.)

 

[Arlo]

The God Thing said:
As much as it utterly sickens me to defend trash like Harve Bennett and Leonard Nimoy

What a disgustingly mean thing to say. Don't like their movies, fine, but to personally insult them like this is the lowest form of fanboy myopia.

 

[Aldo]

Arlo said:

The God Thing said:
As much as it utterly sickens me to defend trash like Harve Bennett and Leonard Nimoy

What a disgustingly mean thing to say. Don't like their movies, fine, but to personally insult them like this is the lowest form of fanboy myopia.

This is TGT on a good day Just wait till he really lets us know how he feels

 

[GodThingFormerly]

Arlo said:
What a disgustingly mean thing to say. Don't like their movies, fine, but to personally insult them like this is the lowest form of fanboy myopia.

I was actually practicing enormous self-restraint when I wrote those words, so kindly excuse me if I disregard your objections concerning my lack of deference when analyzing the celluloid excretions of two Hollywood parasites.

TGT

 

[sturmde]

SiorX said:
My worst Trek movie moment of all time was probably when I realised that Insurrection actually passes the Bechdel Test because of the scene where Beverly and Deanna discuss their breasts. >_<

(The Bechdel Test: A movie must have at least two women in it, and they must talk to each other about something other than a man.)

Awesome reference SiorX! :thumbsup: Not only that, it created a very popular subset of TNG slash fiction! Anyway... some might enjoy the source of the Bechdel Test:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dykes_to_Watch_Out_For

As to Deanna and Beverly... let's just be glad that Pulaski let Crusher resume the posting on Enterprise. Can you imagine a line between Troi and Pulaski similarly in INS? Might have included the song "Do your boobs hang low..."

As to the OP, thinking back to that day in '79, the worst moment was definitely upon exiting the theater... realizing we might never see anything like it again.

Of course, now, looking back, that the editor removed some rather amazing scripted dialogue in favor of more "cloud" sequence.... arrrrrgh. Thank goodness we got alternate versions of TMP and finally the recent director's edition.

I'm still trying to figure out why the Roman numerating jumps from Star Trek IV to Star Trek VI. Anyone know why they never made a Star Trek V?

But hands down, it was Kirk's last words including the two signature words of George Takei: "Oh my."

 

[Peach Wookiee]

The God Thing said:

Arlo said:
What a disgustingly mean thing to say. Don't like their movies, fine, but to personally insult them like this is the lowest form of fanboy myopia.

I was actually practicing enormous self-restraint when I wrote those words, so kindly excuse me if I disregard your objections concerning my lack of deference when analyzing the celluloid excretions of two Hollywood parasites.

TGT

All right, you two... I think you two can accept that you each have a differing opinion about the works of Leonard Nimoy and Harve Bennett, so let's not get into trolling or flaming, okay? Consider this your friendly, people...