"We represent the United Federation of Planets; our mission is a peaceful one, and we want to offer you aid and assistance",... chilling.
The ... impostor had some ... interesting qualities, wouldn't you say, Yeoman?- Spock, to Rand in 'The Enemy Within'- There just is no way to make that comment come out remotely sane, much less good. Rand should have hauled off and belted him.
Oh yes, and the little smirk just capped it off. I'm going through the series with my girlfriend, who has never seen the show before, and she was appalled.
The one I hate the most is from "The Cage", when Pike, exasperated over his flustering yeoman, says "I can't get used to having a woman on the bridge..." then looks over at Number One, "You're different of course, Number One."
I understand the historical and cultural context, and GR might have even thought he was being progressive about pointing out the woman on the bridge...but in the 23rd century, that would be something new and remarkable? That just seems anachronistic even for 1964. And condescending. And it's not as though she was being incompetent, she was just...nervous, like any young officer on the bridge of a starship might be when it was clearly her first assignment. I don't know, it just always bugged me.
The one I hate the most is from "The Cage", when Pike, exasperated over his flustering yeoman, says "I can't get used to having a woman on the bridge..." then looks over at Number One, "You're different of course, Number One."
I understand the historical and cultural context, and GR might have even thought he was being progressive about pointing out the woman on the bridge...but in the 23rd century, that would be something new and remarkable? That just seems anachronistic even for 1964. And condescending. And it's not as though she was being incompetent, she was just...nervous, like any young officer on the bridge of a starship might be when it was clearly her first assignment. I don't know, it just always bugged me.
Miramanee: "I thought you no longer had the dreams, that you no longer saw the strange lodge which moves through the sky."
Underrated and hilarious.
Not a dialogue line, but I was always amused that she couldn't figure out why his shirt had no lacing, apparently unfamiliar with stretch fabrics, then later she puts an elastic headband on him.
The one I hate the most is from "The Cage", when Pike, exasperated over his flustering yeoman, says "I can't get used to having a woman on the bridge..." then looks over at Number One, "You're different of course, Number One."
I understand the historical and cultural context, and GR might have even thought he was being progressive about pointing out the woman on the bridge...but in the 23rd century, that would be something new and remarkable? That just seems anachronistic even for 1964. And condescending. And it's not as though she was being incompetent, she was just...nervous, like any young officer on the bridge of a starship might be when it was clearly her first assignment. I don't know, it just always bugged me.
Captain Tracy ~ "Horrifically offensive?" I don't think so.
Yeah, well, GR was something of a swine. I've never understood the hero worship.
Okay, I give up. What were the writers really secretly trying to tell us? That Roddenberry was a pervert?Captain Tracy ~ "Horrifically offensive?" I don't think so.
ATOZ - The quotes were used to indicate that was not my personal feeling, but of other posts above mine - mostly citing the line from 'THE ENEMY WITHIN' as offensive; used an an example of reaction people are having, instead of asking why would the writers put kind of dialog in - being, one of the key points of my post.
I grabbed the 'THE CAGE' post not to illustrate that posters comment specifically, but to bring a differnt the scene in question - to make the second point of my post.
Both were drawn together to answer WHY many people feel certain dialog, or character dynamics appear "dated", or "awkward" by today's standards; when in-point-of-fact, the dialog and dynamics chosen very carefully and purposefully to make another point beyond the overtly obvious being stated on screen.
Perhaps, I might suggest you read it again in that light.
I appreciate to your post, and thank you for you input on mine.
Captain Tracy ~ "Horrifically offensive?" I don't think so.
ATOZ - The quotes were used to indicate that was not my personal feeling, but of other posts above mine - mostly citing the line from 'THE ENEMY WITHIN' as offensive; used an an example of reaction people are having, instead of asking why would the writers put kind of dialog in - being, one of the key points of my post.
I grabbed the 'THE CAGE' post not to illustrate that posters comment specifically, but to bring a differnt the scene in question - to make the second point of my post.
Both were drawn together to answer WHY many people feel certain dialog, or character dynamics appear "dated", or "awkward" by today's standards; when in-point-of-fact, the dialog and dynamics chosen very carefully and purposefully to make another point beyond the overtly obvious being stated on screen.
Perhaps, I might suggest you read it again in that light.
I appreciate to your post, and thank you for you input on mine.
Okay, I give up. What were the writers really secretly trying to tell us? That Roddenberry was a pervert?
Mirror, Mirror is a Kirk/Spock slash tale?
When Kirk tells Marlena, "You're the captain's woman, until he says you're not," he's really thinking of Spock.
Ah, I see quite clearly now!Mirror, Mirror is a Kirk/Spock slash tale?
After researching what that is, I can only say, you have totally missed the point.
That simple MIRROR, MIRROR example serves to illustrate one of the most glaring examples,.. which literally BEGS the answer of the question:
"Between the so-called Evil, and the so-called Good, which is TRULY is the fairest in the Land?
But, I guess if one does not THINK about why these writers choose the words they do, one can also ONLY come to ONE conclusion - which is not the deeper truth.
Exactly why it would make good reasoning to cast LIBERACE as a proposed substitute actor for the role AtoZ,..
Again,, you have to ask the question, you must dig, dig, dig,.... LIBER, a Latin noun (genative LIBRI, 2nd declination) = BOOK,.. ACE a colloquialism for EXPERT,... A BOOK EXPERT is exactly what a Librarian should be
False conclusions, preconceived prejudices of the mind and non-though-out assumptions, make clear vision impossible - and will hide the inner-stories from those who do not have the eyes to see.
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