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Worf and Kira and Captain Sisko's executive officer

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One thing I remember reading during the run of Deep Space Nine was that Michael Dorn suggested to the producers more conflict between Worf and Kira, as a sort of struggle for who was Captain Sisko's real executive officer.

As I recall, Dorn suggested that Worf's interpretation of Klingon honor would find terrorism as an unacceptable form of violence (i..e., facing your enemies in combat versus planting a bomb that could take out civilians with the target) and that he would object to Kira and the Bajoran's campaign against the Cardassians as based in dishonorable behavior.

I can remember at least one episode that hints at this where Worf tells Kira that she may be the executive officer in command of the station while Sisko is away, but he's the XO of the Defiant and is free to take it off on a rescue mission if he decides that's what is necessary.

I also remember thinking at times Worf and Kira might make for a more interesting couple than either Worf and Dax or Kira and Odo.
 
I can just see it.

Dax: of course we can have a Klingon wedding, dear!

Kira: wait, you think we're gonna have a 100% Klingon, 0% Bajoran wedding? My faith is just as important to me as yours is to you! (looks him up and down) Probably more!
 
I also remember thinking at times Worf and Kira might make for a more interesting couple than either Worf and Dax or Kira and Odo.

I agree on this because in "Way of the Warrior" when Worf meets Dax and Kira, it's Kira who seems to blush and fuss over what she's wearing.

On the other hand, Deanna aside, Worf's taste in women seemed to be Klingon-lite. Someone who is connected to Klingons, without being fully Klingon. Dax fits that bill really well.
 
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They'd need to have two ceremonies, I think. A quiet one in some meditation gardens on Bajor, and a rock 'em sock 'em Klingon one on the station.
 
I can just see it.

Dax: of course we can have a Klingon wedding, dear!

Kira: wait, you think we're gonna have a 100% Klingon, 0% Bajoran wedding? My faith is just as important to me as yours is to you! (looks him up and down) Probably more!
I bet Kira would "travel the whole road to Kalhaya," putting O'Brien and Bashir to shame.
 
I really don't see Kira and Worf working as a couple that really seems like opposites attracting for the sake of it (while Kira/Odo was both sweet and convincing). While Worf was too overlooked on the show, I like that he generally didn't try to push authority over the other characters (particularly the second in command), that he did fit well into and respect the crew structure, trying to challenge Kira would also feel at best pretty forced.

I can maybe see a little clash about Bajoran tactics and history but Kira herself seemed to generally feel it was right for them then but NOT generally.
 
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One thing I remember reading during the run of Deep Space Nine was that Michael Dorn suggested to the producers more conflict between Worf and Kira, as a sort of struggle for who was Captain Sisko's real executive officer.

As I recall, Dorn suggested that Worf's interpretation of Klingon honor would find terrorism as an unacceptable form of violence (i..e., facing your enemies in combat versus planting a bomb that could take out civilians with the target) and that he would object to Kira and the Bajoran's campaign against the Cardassians as based in dishonorable behavior.

I can remember at least one episode that hints at this where Worf tells Kira that she may be the executive officer in command of the station while Sisko is away, but he's the XO of the Defiant and is free to take it off on a rescue mission if he decides that's what is necessary.

I also remember thinking at times Worf and Kira might make for a more interesting couple than either Worf and Dax or Kira and Odo.

The episode you are thinking of is the beginning of "APOCALYPSE RISING".

There is some dialogue that shows what Worf feels abput terrorism... "FOR THE CAUSE", when they are tailing the Xhosa. Worf is in command, and he and O'Brien discuss the Maquis... Worf finds terrorism wholly dishonorable, and O'Brien twlls Worf he should not say that around Kira.
 
Worf may find terrorism dishonorable, but I'm not convinced warrior Klingons in general would agree with him. (We know that Worf differs from Klingons on many points. He seems to be living what he thinks a Klingon is as opposed to what many other Klingons think.) Destruction and killing, violence in the name of making your enemies fear you? That sounds very Klingon to me.
 
I really wish we'd had a scene where Kira whoops his ass, putting him in his place and solidifying her place both as Sisko's Number One and the resident ass-kicker.
 
If Worf had been on Bajor during the occupation, I think that he would have been sneaking around and planting bombs right at Kira's side. And I think Worf knows it too.
 
I also remember thinking at times Worf and Kira might make for a more interesting couple than either Worf and Dax or Kira and Odo.
Well yes, because both of these couples were forced and out of nowhere.

Kira had known of Odo's feelings for a long time, but suddenly now awakens to a mutual love after a poor date and that very strange argument? Dax was also clearly set up to be with Bashir and did not seem like Worf's type at all though the inverse is more imaginable.

Star Trek coupling has a habit of feeling unplanned, ad hoc, with little build up.

Of course, the greatest couple with the greatest buildup, where one can taste that the writers wanted it, but Rick Berman did not, was denied to us:

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Back in my Harry Potter fandom days, assorted pairings had names: Harry/Ginny was "Orange Crush", for instance, while Harry/Ron (yes, we did slash) was "Best Mate".

I think you'd HAVE to call Garak/Bashir "Especially the Lies".
 
Dax was also clearly set up to be with Bashir
I disagree. I think by the time Worf showed up it was already pretty clear that Jadzia and Julian wasn't going to happen.

and did not seem like Worf's type at all though
What part of her didn't seem like his type? I'd say she fits in very well with K'Ehlyr as a type. Gorgeous, tall brunette who can kick all kinds of ass. If anything, Jadzia was an even better match than K'Ehlyr because she was actually into all that 'Klingon nonsense' that K'Ehlyr didn't care about.
 
disagree. I think by the time Worf showed up it was already pretty clear that Jadzia and Julian wasn't going to happen.
Hard to say. Worf was a mid-series addition, so it's very possible that Bashir/Dax was the original plan, but that wasn't the way the series or the characters evolved.
 
As I recall, Dorn suggested that Worf's interpretation of Klingon honor would find terrorism as an unacceptable form of violence (i..e., facing your enemies in combat versus planting a bomb that could take out civilians with the target) and that he would object to Kira and the Bajoran's campaign against the Cardassians as based in dishonorable behavior.

Between Klingons not taking prisoners & hostages and Duras bombing the Rite of Succession, Worf’s viewpoint regarding Klingon honor is naive. It does not seem like something Klingons would be above doing. And Kira would put Worf in his place if he ever brought it up.

I can remember at least one episode that hints at this where Worf tells Kira that she may be the executive officer in command of the station while Sisko is away, but he's the XO of the Defiant and is free to take it off on a rescue mission if he decides that's what is necessary.

There isn’t much conflict here as Worf, being a Starfleet officer, is going to be given priority of commanding the Defiant over a non-Starfleet officer. And Kira is given priority over Worf over commanding DS9 as while it’s under Starfleet jurisdiction, Kira is the Bajorian liaison.

But Kira and Worf being polar opposites provides enough conflict, with or without the terrorism angle.
 
I disagree. I think by the time Worf showed up it was already pretty clear that Jadzia and Julian wasn't going to happen.
Looking it up, Starship Down was indeed further back than I remember it, but also already included Worf.

I'm no sure what set up Worf and J. Dax to a similar extend as that episode did the latter with Bashir.
 
She found him amusing, I think. The way a schoolteacher would be amused by a preteen's crush on her.
 
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