^Babylon 5 was the example I already offered when I posed the question.
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I think the casting of the lead & all the talk of the costume has created enough buzz to get people interested and if the pilot gets picked up I am sure people will tune in to see an iconic hero back on TV in live action.
I don't think NBC is the right network for this show though...it would have been better suited for The CW or maybe a cable network like Oxygen or Lifetime. Wonder Woman does have an advantage over The Cape in that people know who she is and that could help with the NBC audience. As for getting a full season or more...the show has to be entertaining and compelling enough to capture and retain an audience/demo large enough to please NBC.
I don't think NBC is the right network for this show though...it would have been better suited for The CW or maybe a cable network like Oxygen or Lifetime. Wonder Woman does have an advantage over The Cape in that people know who she is and that could help with the NBC audience. As for getting a full season or more...the show has to be entertaining and compelling enough to capture and retain an audience/demo large enough to please NBC.
Except then it would have a much lower budget and much less exposure.
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It would have been a good replacement for Smallville on The CW...I am not sure how much of a lower budget it would get on The CW but exposure wouldn't be a problem...look at TVD...which is a great show...I don't care what any of you manly men say.
It would have been a good replacement for Smallville on The CW...I am not sure how much of a lower budget it would get on The CW but exposure wouldn't be a problem...look at TVD...which is a great show...I don't care what any of you manly men say.
If they were targeting the same demographics as Smallville, I doubt they would've given it to David E. Kelley. Again, to the networks, these are not comic-book stories first and foremost. Smallville was meant to be a teen drama with fantasy elements, and even though the characters are now in their 20s (and the actors in their 30s) and the fantasy far more prevalent, it's probably still aimed at teens for the most part. A Kelley show is probably aimed at an older demographic, maybe upper-income professionals in particular, given how many of his shows focus on lawyers and doctors and now CEOs.
Harry's law finished yesterday.
It sucked.
Maybe Kelley has lost it?
Wikipedia however says that it's NBC's best rated show on right now.
Was there an exchange?
Did he have to do Wonder Woman to get another Lawyer show on the air, or vice versus?
It sucked.
Maybe Kelley has lost it?
Wikipedia however says that it's NBC's best rated show on right now.
Was there an exchange?
Did he have to do Wonder Woman to get another Lawyer show on the air, or vice versus?
I figured it would be aimed at the middle-class masses who fantasize about being upper-income professionals.
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It would have been a good replacement for Smallville on The CW...I am not sure how much of a lower budget it would get on The CW but exposure wouldn't be a problem...look at TVD...which is a great show...I don't care what any of you manly men say.
It would be a much smaller budget. And a couple million viewers isn't what they are looking for. Try like 8 to 10 million.
Christopher what makes you think they're not targeting a similar demographic? The casting of Adrianne (as a younger and hot Diana) would make me think they're still wanting a 18-34 type of crowd watching the show. The casting to me reflects this point.
Just because David Kelly is aboard doesn't mean that they're looking for an older demographic. That logic doesn't make sense at all. Just because he's done shows for older viewers. I watched "Aly McBeal" when I was a teenager. It was considered at the time a "kewl" show to watch.
Also I believe that Jetfire was meaning that "Wonder Woman" would be a good superhero show to follow "Smallville" if it was on CW and that's debatable at this point.
Just because David Kelly is aboard doesn't mean that they're looking for an older demographic. That logic doesn't make sense at all. Just because he's done shows for older viewers. I watched "Aly McBeal" when I was a teenager. It was considered at the time a "kewl" show to watch.
Also I believe that Jetfire was meaning that "Wonder Woman" would be a good superhero show to follow "Smallville" if it was on CW and that's debatable at this point.
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If they are looking for 8-10 viewers they might as well pass on the show...I doubt it will get that range outside of the premiere if it happens.
The CW's demo is women 18-34 the last time I checked...this Wonder Women show seems to fit...based on what I know about it.
Thank you. That is exactly what I was saying.
The CW's demo is women 18-34 the last time I checked...this Wonder Women show seems to fit...based on what I know about it.
I doubt that audience will be watching this Wonder Woman show.
Thank you. That is exactly what I was saying.
Harry's Law was getting 13 millionish every week.
However Ally McBeal ruled the world.
However Ally McBeal ruled the world.
I don't think they gave it to him he had to sell his idea to the network and I can't see them targetting an order audience at any rate, networks don't believe they exist for the most part.
Remember too that this was passed by all the networks the first go around. NBC basically picked this up as a write off and on a shoestring budget. I will be surprised if this is actually picked up.
The idea of Wonder Woman is massive.
Comics and the live show could never sell that.
Superfriends however?
Get'em when they're young.
The cigarette companies know what they're doing.
Then there's the real spine to her fame.
The dirty joke about Wonder Woman and the Invisible man is Universally infamous.
Comics and the live show could never sell that.
Superfriends however?
Get'em when they're young.
The cigarette companies know what they're doing.
Then there's the real spine to her fame.
The dirty joke about Wonder Woman and the Invisible man is Universally infamous.
I explained that in my first sentence -- the fact that they hired David E. Kelley to do it. That alone should make it obvious that they're looking for something more like Ally McBeal or Boston Legal than something like Smallville.
Again, the networks' priority here is not to be faithful to the comics. Smallville certainly wasn't. Their priority is to create TV shows that suit their needs, regardless of the origins of the source material. NBC is a very different network from the CW. It's a far more successful network, for one thing, and has its own identity as a network that's different from the CW's. The two networks' shows have never been interchangeable and there's no reason to assume they'd start now.
So yes, an NBC show's target demographics might include the same group that's targeted by a CW show, but given how much bigger a network NBC is, how much higher its shows' budgets are, it stands to reason that they'd be targeting a broader demographic as well. There's simply no sense in assuming that any NBC show would be targeted to the exact same demographic, or have the exact same creative mentality behind it, as any CW show.
Sure, theoretically, a Wonder Woman series could've followed Smallville, but not this Wonder Woman series. This WW series is a David E. Kelley show for NBC, and that means it's not going to be the same kind of thing as Smallville by a long shot.
I mean, seriously, when did Smallville become the default archetype for what a television superhero show would be like? The very notion is bizarre. For a decade, fans have been griping about how wildly revisionist Smallville was, and yet now they're expecting any other DC-based show to be interchangeable with it, to take a compatible approach? How does that add up? Smallville itself is a statistical outlier among superhero TV series, so it should be a given that another DC-based series would not be too similar to it.
Kelley has had shows fail before. So did Bochco, at the height of his success. There's no trend here.
I used to watch Smallville until it became well-nigh unwatchable. The involvement of someone like David E Kelley would interest me more in a Wonder Woman show much more than that of someone connected to Smallville; though I remain unsure of how good a fit for this kind of show he is.
Me too. Worst pilot episode ever.