Wonder Woman and Batman's current continuity

[ClayinCA]

Well, if it were Mark Millar's idea, Superman would only eat women and minorities.

This is the funniest thing I've read all week.

Is the first meeting between Batman and Superman now completely different to how it was in the original post-COIE 'verse?

It's a Superman/Batman annual, isn't it? Bruce and Clark have to go on a cruise together, and they learned each other's secret identities. And they have to sleep in the same bed, too.

@Allyn Gibson...yeah the first Superman/Batman annual written by Joe Casey I think established that Bruce and Clark met on a cruise. Although I don't think that was meant to be considered canon. In that story they take on Ultraman, Owlman, and Superwoman. Casey intended this to be an imaginary tale not canon. Which is why it's cleverly titled "Stop me if you've heard this one..."

I'm not sure if anything in Superman/Batman is meant to be considered canonical, at least not since the introduction of Supergirl. Regardless, I trust everyone knows that the whole "Bruce and Clark met on a cruise" story is a rewrite of "The Mightiest Team in the World" from Superman # 76 (1952), written by the great Edmond Hamilton and drawn by the even greater Curt Swan.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Superman/Batman have had recent canonical flashback arcs recently to various periods of DC history, including one for "Final Crisis" written by Judd Winnick focusing on Superman's reaction to the "death" of Batman. Recently Chris Roberson wrote a DC 1 million two parter featuring the Batman and Superman from that time. Prior to the new direction which was introduced last year yeah...there were non-canonical stories.

 

[23skidoo]

According to the current DC Timeline we're at Year Thirteen...so do the math. 25 plus 13 is 38. Why is hard to believe that Clark and Bruce are that old?

Trying to actually ascribe a real-world timeline to comic books is like trying to rationalize how Bart Simpson has remained 10 years old for the last 22 years. Even if you worked out that every episode of The Simpsons made to date takes place on consecutive days, they've gone past the point.

The point regarding Batson is well put. Billy Batson has been 10 years old for going on 70 years. And he'll remain 10 for the next 70. Wonder Woman - in what you might call "mainstream" continuity as opposed to the occasional one-off Kingdom Come scenari - will never turn grey. Power Girl's superpowers will never sag (erm...). Peter Parker's voice will never break. And so on.

I know DC is trying to get a cohesive timeline going. And the whole "multiple earths" thing was intended to rationalize the different versions of Superman, Flash, etc. But I for one categorize it under "don't go there".

Regarding the current Wonder Woman arc, which I've only dipped my toes in, it would be interesting to see this used as the template for the new TV series, but despite all the "new-look Wonder Woman" media coverage, I knew by the end of the first issue that this wasn't the "real" Wonder Woman. At least they're handling it better than the "Diana Prince, Wonder Woman" misfire of the 1960s!

Alex

 

[EJA]

I wasn't aware that some of the material in Superman/Batman is meant to be apocryphal.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Most of it is. The first two arcs are meant to be canon, the fall of President Luthor, and the arrival of Kara Zor-El to Earth. The majority of the rest is pretty much not as has been suggested although some of the recent issues have been flashbacks to previous past storylines. I mentioned the "Final Crisis" "coda" written by Judd Winnick. I would reccomend reading Paul Levitz excellent Superman/Batman Annual #4 from last year which takes place in DCAU continuity and is a continuation of Batman Beyond from the episode where Superman was liberated from Starro.

 

[JoeZhang]

The last couple of years seems to have been all in canon.

Talking about things coming and going - a few years ago, I remember a DC editor noting that Keith (Perry White's adopted son) didn't exist anymore - then he popped up in an annual last month.

(Keith is another one who's age messes stuff up - He started as a 8 year old child but now seems to be a couple of years younger than Jimmy).

 

[Admiral_Young]

EJA probably doesn't want to hear what Grant Morrison's thoughts are on character ages