Wonder Woman 2 Anticipation Thread

[JD]

Economically speaking, you guys push for an on-demand release are crazy. WW84 was set to be one of, if not THE highest grossing release of 2020. The originl had the highest domestic gross of the enitre DC Film Universe.

i think the 80's theme would have helped pre-release buzz a lot in the US.

If AVengers Endgame or Black Panther 2 had been in the same predicament, it would have been just as silly to NOT have them be a tentpole of the movie revival / post-Covid era.

Had there not been Covid, we would have the year of the Woman ACtion Hero, and there would be a lot of buzz about how Mulan, Black WIdow and WOnder Woman 84 would shake things up.

They're going to have to start releasing them in some form soon, or they're going to end up with such a backlog of movies that they're never going to be able to get caught up. We still don't know when people are actually going to start going to the theater regularly, so if they release them now and go right to a streaming service, at least they are guaranteed to some of their money back.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

For some movies, it makes absolute sense to put them on VOD and/or streaming now. WW84 is not such a movie. Yes, WB will put Tenet on Home Media and streaming early, but that comes after the movie has brought in hundreds of millions in worldwide box office. Considering theaters are currently closed in a lot of European countries again, - and at least in Germany it currently doesn't look like the lockdown will be lifted in December, my guess is a lot of other countries will look similar - it doesn't strike me as economically smart to release it theatrically on Christmas for a run of two or three weeks.

 

[Morpheus 02]

They're going to have to start releasing them in some form soon, or they're going to end up with such a backlog of movies that they're never going to be able to get caught up. We still don't know when people are actually going to start going to the theater regularly, so if they release them now and go right to a streaming service, at least they are guaranteed to some of their money back.

I know what you are saying, but they really want to save the blockbusters for "real" release. Mid-to-low budget movies would be fine with "at-home only" (or limited theater release as part of it), such as Bill & Ted Face the Music (Though it would have been funny if they saved it to release on the Same day as Matrix 4 and John Wick 4).

Wonder Woman is way too big NOT to release it in theaters first.... and with all the silence about Mulan... i think we know how unsuccessful that turned out to be. That's probably why Marvel is holding out on Black Widow, even though their Twitter home page says it was supposed to be out Nov 6

 

[crookeddy]

Mulan... i think we know how unsuccessful that turned out to be.

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/disney-plus-mulan-pvod-movies-premier-access-1234598557/

 

[Morpheus 02]

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/disney-plus-mulan-pvod-movies-premier-access-1234598557/

Sounds like a whole lot of spin to me. Part of the increase surely had to do with Quarantines becoming more in effect , and people realizing that what they had wasn't enough and/or wanting to see things like the Mandolorian.

We still have no idea how many people paid for on-Demand viewings, right?

 

[Kai "the spy"]

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/disney-plus-mulan-pvod-movies-premier-access-1234598557/

Shareholder representative: "Mr Chapek, the company you're heading has had a loss of $ 710 million in the fourth quarter. Besides that, while we can't actually review the streaming numbers as you don't release them, the fact that Mulan went to VOD on other platforms after only a short period of time indicates your release model was the wrong direction. Why should shareholders hold onto their investments in the Disney corporation?"

Chapek: "Uh, ... because ... well, Mulan didn't do that bad. I mean, it did alright. It technically brought some money in. My strategy didn't fail. It was good. In fact, it was great. Mulan did well that way. It was a huge success. In fact, it was so successful, we're gonna release more movies that way."

SR: "What, like Black Widow?"

C: "Fuck, no. ... Please, don't fire me."

 

[JD]

I take it they haven't released any real numbers for how much Mulan actually made off on Disney+?
One of the big questions for me is if people are even going to go back to the theaters by next summer. Even if we get a vaccine and things are getting better by then, I could see a lot of people still being too scared to go into a movie theater.
I went to the theater to see Tenet and would have gladly gone back for Black Widow and Wonder Woman, but with the way a lot of people are talking, I have a feeling it will be a long time before they start going back.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

I'm more than happy to never go to a theatre again. It's surprising how one can get used to things when you find you don't need something in your life.
The important things and people are with me at home. Experiencing a new movie with them is more important than the where.

 

[JD]

I do enjoy watching big movies on a big movie screen, but I wouldn't necessarily miss them if all the movie theaters died out. If I really want to see a movie on a bigger screen without a movie theater, I can just get a bigger TV.

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[crookeddy]

I don't think I'll ever go to a public gathering again. What's the point...

 

[Thestral]

I've got a big tv, home cinema set...

If I really want to see a movie on a bigger screen without a movie theater, I can just get a bigger TV.

Meanwhile in the world of plebs that can't shell out casually...

 

[Scout101]

I mean, it's like $10-12 a ticket to the theater, plus any snacks, potentially a sitter, turning it into date night with dinner, etc. Can easily be a $50-100 night or more. By contrast, can buy the movie for $15-20 and watch it as often as you like, so the 'plebs' should be the ones more likely to watch at home vice casually shelling out to go out the theater, no? TVs have gotten crazy cheap as well, so 300-400 gets you a pretty decent-sized flatscreen.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

The Hollywood Reporter is reporting that Universal has just announced that in the future, tentpole movies will be available for streaming in homes 31 days after being released in cinemas

 

[Saul]

The important things and people are with me at home. Experiencing a new movie with them is more important than the where.

**sits in empty room**

If I really want to see a movie on a bigger screen without a movie theater, I can just get a bigger TV.

**checks bank balance. Takes another long drink from the cheapest bottle of whiskey he could find**

The Hollywood Reporter is reporting that Universal has just announced that in the future, tentpole movies will be available for streaming in homes 31 days after being released in cinemas

Jesus, tentpole movies? Movies that would more than likely still be making money after 31 days? That's nuts. That's a kick in the balls to movie chains.

 

[Avalon]

In years past, my son and I would go to the movies two or three times a year, to see films that we were both most excited about seeing. We'd split a large popcorn and diet soda (because they come with free refills), because we felt it was important to support the theaters themselves.

We're...very low income. My tv is an old 32" RCA tube tv I got for free off of an online yard-sale group. (I've had it for years, now, and I'm grateful for every day it still works, because I've never had a tv that big before.) Same for my pc, my fridge, and various other things. Buying something new involves a lot of discussion, weighing priorities, and often deciding not to risk spending the money after all.

This year, after years of researching Black Friday deals and rejecting them, we pulled the trigger on a flatscreen tv for $149. This will replace my son's 19" flatscreen (which we bought used for $30 a number of years ago). Turns out it's 55" -- way bigger than we realized! Which is good, because aside from the price (really good, but still something that required deliberation), it'll help with my aging vision issues. While I used to love going to the movies, I think this will help take the place of it. I don't know that I'll ever feel comfortable going to a theater again.

 

[Mage]

Meanwhile in the world of plebs that can't shell out casually...

Sorry, I didn't mean it like so.

 

[JD]

Meanwhile in the world of plebs that can't shell out casually...

I mean, it's like $10-12 a ticket to the theater, plus any snacks, potentially a sitter, turning it into date night with dinner, etc. Can easily be a $50-100 night or more. By contrast, can buy the movie for $15-20 and watch it as often as you like, so the 'plebs' should be the ones more likely to watch at home vice casually shelling out to go out the theater, no? TVs have gotten crazy cheap as well, so 300-400 gets you a pretty decent-sized flatscreen.

Yeah, even decent size TVs have come down a lot in price, looking on Amazon most 50'' are only around regularly $400-$600, which really isn't that outrageous, especially if you're going to be giving up going to the movie theaters. Even with a minimum wage job, and it wouldn't take that long to save that much. Right now some are sale even cheaper, for example they have a Toshiba Smart, UHD 50'' TV for only $259.99.

 

[tomalak301]

I don't think I'll ever go to a public gathering again. What's the point...

I would think it's human nature to want interactions with people face to face?

I enjoyed and miss going to that big movie release. I'm not sure Avengers Endgame would have had the same impact on me if I had not seeing it with like minded people. Heck, I don't know many Star Trek fans around me so whenever there was a Trek movie I just enjoyed the atmosphere. I hate the fact that that might be lost forever.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Yeah, even decent size TVs have come down a lot in price, looking on Amazon most 50'' are only around regularly $400-$600, which really isn't that outrageous, especially if you're going to be giving up going to the movie theaters. Even with a minimum wage job, and it wouldn't take that long to save that much. Right now some are sale even cheaper, for example they have a Toshiba Smart, UHD 50'' TV for only $259.99.

Almost half of the US can't afford a $400 emergency, let alone a new TV.

And that statistic is from before the pandemic.

 

[Scout101]

New TV? Maybe. I'd be willing to bet that far more than half of those that said they couldn't afford the $400 (which is sad, and another thread entirely) already own a TV...

And even all of that aside, not sure why it's affordable to go out and spend 50-100+ on a single movie when $250 once plus $20 a disc (or Netflix, or whatever you want to use) gets you a ton more. Literally break even after a couple movies, and I'd argue far before since very few households don't own a tv already...