Wonder Woman 2 Anticipation Thread

[Anwar]

Nope.

She can create a forcefield that disintegrates stuff thrown at it and redirect energy blasts and all that stuff in the fight with Ares, but somehow can't do the same to Doomsday or Ares 100 years later. It's a screw-up.

And no, don't say "She's the God-Killer, she can only use that against Ares."

 

[The Realist]

She's the God-Killer, she can only use that against Ares.

(Before anybody chooses to engage further, this particular rabbit hole has already been thoroughly explored and definitely leads nowhere.)

 

[The Realist]

But that big delay also ruins the DC Film Universe momentum, assuming Shazam does fairly well as does Aquaman.

If the Birds of Prey movie keeps its recently announced release date (February 7, 2020), it will now open well before Wonder Woman 1984. That's still almost a year after Shazam!, however.

 

[dahj]

If the Birds of Prey movie keeps its recently announced release date (February 7, 2020), it will now open well before Wonder Woman 1984. That's still almost a year after Shazam!, however.

There's also Joker in October between Shazam! and BoP.

 

[Anwar]

If the Birds of Prey movie keeps its recently announced release date (February 7, 2020), it will now open well before Wonder Woman 1984. That's still almost a year after Shazam!, however.

So they're giving us every DC film EXCEPT the one we want most? Are they hoping that if those other films get poor receptions that it'll make WW look better by comparison like the first time?

 

[dahj]

So they're giving us every DC film EXCEPT the one we want most?

Don't fret, I'm sure Plastic Man movie will shortly be in the works!

 

[The Realist]

There's also Joker in October between Shazam! and BoP.

Yeah, I know, but I was -- kind of arbitrarily -- just talking about the shared-universe DCEU (or whatever we're supposed to call it these days). That seemed more relevant to the "momentum" concern Morpheus 02 was referencing, plus I'm not personally fond of the decision to dilute their already struggling efforts with these "side project" films -- an alternate Joker solo, least of all.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

She can create a forcefield that disintegrates stuff thrown at it and redirect energy blasts and all that stuff in the fight with Ares, but somehow can't do the same to Doomsday or Ares 100 years later. It's a screw-up.

And no, don't say "She's the God-Killer, she can only use that against Ares."

I don't care. Justice League is a terrible movie and I'm never going to watch it again. BvS wasn't much better and I'll probably only watch it again if I happen upon an opportunity to see the extended version for free. Neither one of them 'makes Wonder Woman look worse' because WW is 20 times the movie of both of them put together.

 

[Encuentro]

Grace Randolph is reporting that the delay is due to a major shift in the DCEU, specifically, the much-theorized DCEU reboot. I'll let her explain it. If true, it sounds like a very interesting development.

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[dahj]

^^
Haven't watched the video, but it's par for course that insane theories are going to start coming out so let's be real here for a second, this isn't about appeasing the angry fanboys, this is about money.

Wonder Woman 2 will make lots of money whenever it releases, but in 2019 we have the Avengers, which is the culmination of three phases and 20+ movies in the MCU and the finale of the Star Wars sequel trilogy, so realistically at best it will be no. 3 regardless of how good it is.

In 2020 however, there's no Avengers, no Guardians, no Jurassic World, and probably no Star Wars. There's no obvious contenders announced for that top spot yet (Avatar 2, maybe, but it's questionable how much enthusiasm it will muster after 11 years) so WB is betting that Wonder Woman can be not just one of the bigger ones, but could possibly explode to be the biggest movie of the year.

That is the only reason for the delay, anyone spinning this other ways is just baiting for clicks.

 

[Trekkin]

Grace Randolph is reporting that the delay is due to a major shift in the DCEU, specifically, the much-theorized DCEU reboot. I'll let her explain it. If true, it sounds like a very interesting development.

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Randolph is either a particularly believable drama llama, or genuinely bananas. She was one of the big pushers of the ‘Disney bribed critics to hate BvS’ campaign a few years back.

By which I mean, she spammed abuse at her (now former) coworkers and employers at both Marvel and DC about it for months. She was then shocked to find that all her bridges had been burned.

So take anything she says with an earth mover-full of salt.

 

[Anwar]

Randolph is either a particularly believable drama llama, or genuinely bananas. She was one of the big pushers of the ‘Disney bribed critics to hate BvS’ campaign a few years back.

By which I mean, she spammed abuse at her (now former) coworkers and employers at both Marvel and DC about it for months. She was then shocked to find that all her bridges had been burned.

So take anything she says with an earth mover-full of salt.

Randolph has had it out for Marvel comics ever since they fired her as a comic writer there, she supports any studio doing Marvel films EXCEPT the MCU because of that too.

 

[TedShatner10]

I found the first Wonder Woman the best out of the bad bunch of DCEU films, but it was certainly the most overhyped film of 2017 - while WW is a solid film that contends well with standard MCU output, I actually preferred Batman: The Dark Knight Rises (even if Nolan was wrong footed by Ledger's death and running out of plotting or themes, and it gets bashed by nerds).

I've seen BvS recently and while it got top notch effects and action, it eventually bogged down into becoming a literal funeral dirge of a movie (and Lex Luthor was miscast and had weak motives; a cutprice Ledger Joker).

 

[Anwar]

I found the first Wonder Woman the best out of the bad bunch of DCEU films, but it was certainly the most overhyped film of 2017 - while WW is a solid film that contends well with standard MCU output, I actually preferred Batman: The Dark Knight Rises (even if Nolan was wrong footed by Ledger's death and running out of plotting or themes, and it gets bashed by nerds).

I seen BvS recently and while it got top notch effects and action, it eventually bogged down into becoming a literal funeral dirge of a movie (and Lex Luthor was miscast and had weak motives; a cutprice Ledger Joker).

Everyone who keeps wanting the film to be profound bring up Luthor's whole "If God is all powerful he cannot be all good" nonsense as if it were some kind of justification...

...They seem to ignore that as soon as Luthor found out about Kryptonite, the basis for his dislike of Superman went out the window.

 

[TedShatner10]

...They seem to ignore that as soon as Luthor found out about Kryptonite, the basis for his dislike of Superman went out the window.

Plus fruitlessly, recklessly throwing away dozens of valuable henchpeople and blithely going "fuck everything!" by blowing up half the US Government (like everything, Luthor's characterisation and story arc was really rushed - killing world leaders or shareholders, etc is stuff Lex would doing after being pushed into a corner by Superman).

 

[JD]

Grace Randolph is reporting that the delay is due to a major shift in the DCEU, specifically, the much-theorized DCEU reboot. I'll let her explain it. If true, it sounds like a very interesting development.

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Who is Grace Randolph and why should I believe her? I'm not going to waste my time with this unless I know for sure she definitely knows what she's talking about.

 

[Starscream2112]

Who is Grace Randolph and why should I believe her? I'm not going to waste my time with this unless I know for sure she definitely knows what she's talking about.

I have been watching her videos for a while now. I find her to be right about a third of the time.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I have been watching her videos for a while now. I find her to be right about a third of the time.

I have a penny that's right more often than that.

 

[Anwar]

I wouldn't mind her if not for her passive-aggressive vendetta against the MCU.

 

[dahj]

I wouldn't mind her if not for her passive-aggressive vendetta against the MCU.

I wouldn't mind you if not for your passive-aggressive vendetta against everything but MCU.