With Shatner out of Trek 11...
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How hard would it be to write an extra scene or two with Leonard?
well he did come back in his books how bout they do the same thing...
not exactly as the books but have spock stand at his grave and find it is empty and somewhere out there as a borg that he is alive...
Well it's something.
Nathaniel
not exactly as the books but have spock stand at his grave and find it is empty and somewhere out there as a borg that he is alive...
Well it's something.
Nathaniel
Hmmm...
I agree with what a poster said in that Shatner seems to have been playing 'himself' rather than Kirk as time went on...(where, on the other hand, I felt the Spock character had 'grown up' since the televised series)...
I would welcome a strong interpretation of the Kirk character by a new actor...(However, I can't say I would miss Shatner if he didn't appear in the film).
Knock yourselves out. But the poster's original question was whether the inclusion or exclusion of Shatner or Nimoy would have any influence in whether we'd see the next film. So I'm responding to that.
The inclusion of Shatner and/or Nimoy would be nothing more than a transparent grab at legitimacy in terms of saying, "Yes, this is the same continuity and this is how it happened." They'd get more respect if they just stuck to the restart idea and left any of the original cast out of it. Let the thing live or die on its own merits...if any.
It's never been said that this movie is a "restart" or reboot or anything like that. It is just supposed to tell a story that occured at a time that we haven't seen (or heard about) as of yet.
I could care less whether Shatner's in it or not - the focus of the movie is going to be on the new Kirk and the new Spock in any event.
Aside from a little nostalgia, there's not a lot of reason to have the original cast in it at all.
Aside from a little nostalgia, there's not a lot of reason to have the original cast in it at all.
I am looking forward to this movie and yes I still hope that the shat will appear and they are holding off to get some big publicity later on in the year.
Spock came back from the dead, so why not Kirk. But I'll see it no matter what.
But I'll see it no matter what.
I'll see it if the clips, previews and advance critical word make it look like it will be worth my time. If it looks like shit, I won't see it. That's the way I decide if I'll see any movie. Trek gets neither a free pass nor a hard way to go.
By comparison, I'm a fanatical Philip K. Dick fan. I nearly ruptured myself waiting for the long delayed adapatation of A Scanner Darkly because all indicators made it look like it would be the best PKD movie yet--and, in many ways, it was. Next (based on a PKD short story, "The Golden Man"), however, looked like crap and I still haven't bothered to see it.
By comparison, I'm a fanatical Philip K. Dick fan. I nearly ruptured myself waiting for the long delayed adapatation of A Scanner Darkly because all indicators made it look like it would be the best PKD movie yet--and, in many ways, it was. Next (based on a PKD short story, "The Golden Man"), however, looked like crap and I still haven't bothered to see it.
I don't care. I'll watch it anyway. But although I would like a Shat cameo, I don't want to see the producers going out of their way to push him into the script. It should be plausible, and since old Kirk is dead...well, leave him out, I say.
After I've watched it, I'll decide whether I liked it or not, but I honestly hope I will! With Shatner or without him.
After I've watched it, I'll decide whether I liked it or not, but I honestly hope I will! With Shatner or without him.
I won't have any trouble blowing it off.
I didn't see Nemesis in-theatre, and when I got the DVD rental, I was so glad not to have.
New blood means nothing. The Star Wars prequels may have made a lot of money, but they're meaningless. We already know the fates of those characters. Gee, is Obi Wan in trouble, will he die? Erm, no.
Kirk? Won't die. Spock? Won't die.
Blech.
I didn't see Nemesis in-theatre, and when I got the DVD rental, I was so glad not to have.
New blood means nothing. The Star Wars prequels may have made a lot of money, but they're meaningless. We already know the fates of those characters. Gee, is Obi Wan in trouble, will he die? Erm, no.
Kirk? Won't die. Spock? Won't die.
Blech.
True enough, but we knew that after "The Man Trap" first aired. Every week our hero's lives were threatened and every week they figured a way out of it. The fun is in watching how they "not died". With very few exceptions, you can't kill off your leading characters and expect people to keep watching.
On the other hand, no one looked deader than Spock at the end of TWOK...
when does principle filming start, and does it completely overlap the filming of Boston Legal?
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