Wiped Episode Discoveries
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Par for the course with Ian unfortunately. He says he'll never watch another episode, but I guarantee he'll obsessively watch it as ever.
Watch and hate it, like he did with season 24, as he hated Langford's casting with a passion.
They've had plenty of time. The past few seasons have been systematically preparing us for this with the Corsair, the General, and Missy (plus that one fakeout where Clara claimed to be the Doctor and actually got first billing in the titles). After seeing all that, if anyone still assumed the Doctor would never be female, then they just weren't paying attention, or else were in denial. Admittedly, I didn't expect it to happen this soon (though the setup for it is obvious in retrospect -- "Is the future going to be all-girl?" "We can only hope"), but I did believe that it would, and should, happen before too much longer.
Granted, if people are resistant, it is probably more productive to try to bring them gently into the light than just smack them down for their attitudes and make them more resistant to change, but it's still not easy to sympathize with their thinking.
Anyway, there are reactions against every new Doctor -- even from the Doctor himself. "Oh, he's too old! Well, he's too fat, isn't he? No, he's too thin! That one's too young! Oh, now, that won't do at all. It's ridiculous!" But usually the proof is in the tasting and the new Doctor wins most of the audience over, or brings in new fans to replace the old.
Yes. I agree and personally I have always expected a female doctor at some point. But I must admit I totally forgot about the remark in that episode with the Doctor's daughter.
The easier it is to ignore them for a day or day.
I understand this tweet to be about the first, spontanous reaction. She was announced on Sunday and his tweet is from Monday or Tuesday?
Oh yes, I hate that too, especially those, who want him "hip" and young. I was very happy when they casted Capaldi, because I knew him from Torchwood Season 3 and found his performance very memorable. Much better than in Pompeji Episode btw.
I don't know Whittaker, so I can't say much about her. I didn't know the other candidates either.
Oh, yes, he was utterly brilliant there.
I've seen her in Attack the Block, but I don't remember much about her performance. I have Broadchurch in my Netflix queue, but I have some computer audio problems I need to fix first.
She was good in ATB. She's great in Broadchurch, though I wouldn't blame anyone for just watching the first series. That one feels like a perfect one-and-done. The second feels like, oh crap, that was bigger than we expected, what do we do now? Third was pretty good.
I'm in the minority about series 2 because I largely enjoyed it, but I understand why many didn't like it. I think series 3 is almost as good as series 1. Either way, the main cast performances are excellent all the way through, including Jodie Whitakker.
I didn't hate series 2, I just expected better. I even read all the tie-in short story ebooks.
Well, here's one update that IS on topic: Looks like Britbox is going the telesnap-recon route as far as missing episodes go. The Wheel in Space will be first.
Great news for those who enjoyed Loose Cannon's efforts, but a bit of a letdown for others I imagine.
Great news for those who enjoyed Loose Cannon's efforts, but a bit of a letdown for others I imagine.
Yep. On the latter part, I mean.
It's a letdown that it's just a recon, but it sounds like it will be high quality as far as they go. The Web of Fear 3 and the two Underwater Menace episodes had very poor recons just using stills and telesnaps.
Wheel was always one of Loose Cannon's better efforts, so it's great that the brilliant CGI is used in this new one, along with a (no doubt) flawless Mark Ayres soundtrack.
Wheel was always one of Loose Cannon's better efforts, so it's great that the brilliant CGI is used in this new one, along with a (no doubt) flawless Mark Ayres soundtrack.
The Moff's grooming people for 5 years now wasn't enough?! Anyone paying attention would have been shocked if the new Doctor was male.
It's saddening that Levine won't even try the new show before criticizing, unless he knows what it will be... or if he's still uptight over that 1986 video ("Open Air"?) where Chris was poking at "The Trial of a Time Lord" (not aware of the problems behind the scenes?)
What's even more saddening is if Levine has info on other missing episodes, if he really wants nothing to do with the show...
What's most saddening is if Levine, who has more insight into how these shows are made, is right in his articulation/hypothesis/guessing while all us tolerant "give it a chance" peons get egg on our faces. But that would still be toward Chibnall and how he and his handlers want the show to be. Jodie's just caught in the middle, regardless.
On the plus side, she's Doctor #13. They could really take this show from sci-fi into pure "Lord of the Rings" style fantasy and have her walking around in a cape and blink and the TARDIS key magically appears and she opens the TARDIS door and Gerald Gardner pops out and initiates her as a new Goddess. Can't blame him, TBH... the way the show's quality has been so variable during the last 12 years, it'd be a remarkable improvement no matter which way it's looked at... except DW has historically been sci-fi with some deft usage of fantasy instead of scribbling out any old tosh...
Capaldi was so horribly underused. series 8 was his best, before the hipsters demanded he be softened. He's still had his moments, most of his era is littered with such bad scripts it makes anything from season 24 feel like gold by comparison.
I've not seen Jodie in other things. Nor am I going to go find them to give myself false expectations. Actors are supposed to sell completely different people and typecasting puts a damper on that, Plus, the fact she's like early-40s and doesn't have a 64 triple-D bra size or whatever suggests they're not going after "hip" and young viewers... thankfully... pandering is not what the show needs right now.
One could make a case that he's been grooming people for 18 years:
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Curse_of_Fatal_Death_(TV_story)
Interesting that Joanna Lumley was also the 13th Doctor.
Jodie Whittaker is 35. She's actually the 4th-youngest Doctor, surpassed only by Peter Davison, David Tennant, and Matt Smith (at the times of their respective debuts).
He just hates that the Doctor is going to be female. Plus he wasn't a fan of Torchwood, which Chibnall ran for the first two years.
But he's obviously going to watch it. Of course he is. The show obsesses him and he'll watch Whittaker's debut for sure. Perhaps she'll be briefly brilliant in the end of the Christmas special?
I wouldn't worry, he seems to know as much as anyone else about missing episodes these days. If he did come across something, I've no doubt he'd move heaven and earth to get hold of it, and he would do the right thing and hand them over to Paul Vanezis and the BBC. Even if he does hate Whittaker, he still loves Hartnell and Troughton.
Indeed, which stands out to me because she's only two months younger than me. So I'm glad she's not in her early 40s yet.
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